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Contents 1 Religion Userboxes 1.1 Proper use of vocabulary (unless it was just to tick off some people) 2 Talk Templates 3 LICENSE! 4 Demon King 5 FEC 6 Re: Jump Rope 7 Jeppo's Challenge Award 8 Balthier's Hat 9 Hello. 10 Clash 11 Userpages content-remover

[edit] Religion Userboxes

[edit] Proper use of vocabulary (unless it was just to tick off some people)

Just so you know, being an atheist and being anti-religious are two different things, in between which there is no inherent relation. Faethin^{verba volant} 16:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I know, and I'm not trying to tick anyone off. Out of interest, which vocab are you querying, and who did you think it would tick off?

Besides, techincally I am anti-religious, but only insofar as I personally think the world would probably be a better place without religion, but otherwise I have no fundamental problem with it. What I do have a problem with is a lot of things done in the name of religion, of which religious indoctrination is just one (albeit a major one). -- Sorceror Nobody 17:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I was referring to the fact that you called yourself an atheist and used an "anti-R" symbol, which denotes anti-religiousness. A naive person would've mistaken the two terms regarding them as synonyms. When you uploaded the symbol, I immediately thought that some people like to call themselves atheists and rant about how religion sucks just in order to annoy and offend other people. Of course, I am not saying that this is your case. Faethin^{verba volant} 17:38, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I do see your point, although re: the symbol? It's meant to mean I have "no religion", in a similar way as with a cigarette it means "No Smoking". If you can come up with a better symbol, I'm open to suggestions. There is that idea I once read about of using the Mandelbrot Set fractal, but that's more for the scientific or mathematical ethos than directly atheist, and besides, most people wouldn't see the relevance. -- Sorceror Nobody 18:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I myself don't see it and would gladly learn about it :D Faethin^{verba volant} 23:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I read about the idea in New Scientist... I'll see if I can track down the article. Still, as far as the Mandelbrot Set itself is concerned, well, that's what I gave a wikipedia link for :P
-- Sorceror Nobody, at 3:00 in the morning (when he really should be in bed asleep), 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity Talk · Flan's Elbow · Sandbox · User Articles: 1 2 3 4 5 · Walkthroughs: RoF · Puzzles Wiki · 15:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC) You may have noticed that I've found a symbol on Wikipedia and updated the userbox. I've also removed the footnote, as it felt a bit like excess baggage (if you know what I mean) plus if anyone else were to ever use this userbox, they might not want the footnote. If you (as an admin) think it's not too controversial, I'd like to move it to the mainspace, and also create several for major religions, agnosticism and "prefer not to say". Category: Update in discussion on "Atheist" userbox

You could probably use "anti-R" for a Secular Humanist userbox.--Werefang 15:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I'd just use the Humanist symbol :P -- Sorceror Nobody, 16:00, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Why is a sketch of the Bohr atomic model the symbol of atheism? O_o Faethin^{verba volant} 17:18, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Visually, I think it's meant to resemble the letter A, given that the vertical electron orbital is cut off at the bottom. As for the concept itself, while I doubt that all atheists are science geeks like me, I suppose there are few candidates besides science for a world-view if you don't have a religion. -- Sorceror Nobody, 17:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I see your point, but I think that using science as a symbol of atheism is very fallacious, no offense. I myself am a science student and a Roman Catholic. Faethin^{verba volant} 17:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey don't blame me, I agree that it's not ideal. Blame Wikipedia :P That symbol is exactly what the article has for atheism, and I have yet to see any other candidates. -- Sorceror Nobody, 18:29, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

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On the issue of possibly moving it to the mainspace, I wouldn't have thought it's more controversial than, say, the userboxes for sexual orientation. If you reckon it'd be okay, I'll happily make userboxes for other religions. At the moment, that list is as follows:

• This user identifies as a Christian
• This user identifies as a Muslim
• This user identifies as a Jew
• This user identifies as a Sikh
• This user identifies as a Hindu
• This user identifies as a Buddhist
• This user identifies as a Humanist
• This user identifies as a Agnostic
• This user prefers not to disclose their beliefs (though whether this is even needed is questionable - people can just not use one)

If you think any more should go in, I'm open to suggestions, but I reckon covering the most common religions is probably enough... one for every possible belief system would be quite the multitude! -- Sorceror Nobody, 18:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

You missed one... 終わりの始まり 19:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I like the idea, but I hardly think it's one of the most common religions XD -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, we can add ones like:

• This user identifies as a Yevonite
• This user identifies as a Kefkan
• This user identifies as a follower of the Occuria
• This user identifies as a follower of Feolthanos
• This user identifies as a seeker of Kingdom Hearts

But that's beside the point. -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that there should be a field to express which sect of a religion that a person is a part of. I for one, find it annoying to be lumped into the same group as fundamentalist that steal money by telling people that they are going to hell. But that's just me.--Werefang 19:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Wait, Christianity or Jewism? 終わりの始まり 19:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

@Werefang: That did occur to me. Downside is that it scuppers having the symbol. On the other hand, I could make the ones I've listed, then another one for "Other, please specify: ...........". You have to remember that if people want a different one enough, they can make one in their userspace. I'm merely trying to cater for a majority.

Plus, you have it the wrong way round. Those sorts of people don't deserve to be lumped in with honest believers. In the footnote of the old version of my atheist template, I said that I do have a problem with many things done in the name of religion. These emotional blackmailers are an example, just as much as terrorism is.

@Armageddon: What about "Christianity or Judaism"? If you're asking what I think you're asking, then the answer is "does it matter?". Otherwise, you'll have to clarify what you're asking. -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Werefang was calling a sector of a religion "fundamentalist that steal money by telling people that they are going to hell", which could be either of those in my opinion. I was only asking really. 終わりの始まり 19:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I was actually thinking of something along the lines of an insert field that Halopedia does. For example: "This user is Christian and part of {{{1}}}." and when inserted on a user page would say {{user Christian|the Roman Catholic Church}}. It is similar to Halopedia's weapon preference boxes. And Pocky: I was refering to Televangalist. That is something that seems inherently corrupt to me.--Werefang 19:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

So, something like this, maybe?

Where {{{1}}} would be "Protestant" or "Roman Catholic" or whatever, and obviously the link to the image would be replaced by uploading the image to this wiki. -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. The image for the major religions would be the same but I'm just suggesting it to prevent "distasteful" misconceptions.--Werefang 20:18, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I guess this seems an ideal solution. Do you think I should still wait for admin approval ^{(are you still around, Faethin?)}, given the still-possible controversiality, or do you think it's safe enough to mainspace it? -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:24, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I say go ahead. These are about as unnessary as sexual preference userboxes and in my oppinion are, as you said, less controvesial.--Werefang 20:27, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I never said "less", I said "no more". Anyway, I'll get right on it. -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Tadaa! Final_Fantasy_Wiki:Userboxes#Religion -- Sorceror Nobody, 21:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Talk Templates

Deadlyslashsword - +It takes disaster to learn a lesson, but you're going to make it through the darkest nights+ TALK - 20:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC) - Am I too late...to be saved? You are only allowed to have one. I got bitched out for having more than one, too. But there is a solution. Look at my template to see how you can combine all of your templates into one.

The problem is that it doesn't seem to like me having my talk template(s) placed into the #if: clauses. You have to remember that my talk template is customised from TalkTextTest2 but no longer uses it, so it consists of the full-blown wiki markup instead of just specifying the parameters like yours does -- Sorceror Nobody, 21:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Then you create the templates in your userspace.  ILHI 21:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity Talk · Flan's Elbow · Sandbox · User Articles: 1 2 3 4 5 · Walkthroughs: RoF · Puzzles Wiki · 23:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC) As you can see, I sorted it out. Feel free to delete all of the following: Template:SNTalk1 Template:SNTalk2 Template:SNTalk3 User:Sorceror_Nobody/SNTalk1 User:Sorceror_Nobody/SNTalk2 So, now my talk template works just as well as Deadlyslashsword's... which seems to be not, actually. It only ever seems to show the first possible option (i.e. for mine, and for DSS's). Any idea what's up with that? Category: Thanks, although there's this one thing...

16:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC) It's not actually random.

Sorceror Nobody – Uber-1337 Magitek Pwnage Talk · Flan's Elbow · Sandbox · User Articles: 1 2 3 4 5 · Walkthroughs: RoF · Puzzles Wiki · {{{time}}} {{{text2}}} Category: {{{category}}}

Sorceror Nobody – A Monument to Nothingness Talk · Flan's Elbow · Sandbox · User Articles: 1 2 3 4 5 · Walkthroughs: RoF · Puzzles Wiki · {{{time}}} {{{text3}}} Category: {{{category}}}

You choose which one you want to use. Also, you may wish to know I am the person who coded the multi-talk template.  ILHI 16:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Not random? Well that's a little disappointing. I might revert to only the picture changing so that it can be random... though I love the association with the taglines. There must be some way to make it random, probably hellish codewise of course. Still, I must say I'm impressed with the template as it stands. I still can't actually figure out exactly what the #if: can cope with as its input... -- Sorceror Nobody, 16:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Random is possible if all you're changing is the image. You just have to put choose/option in the image parameter. If that doesn't work, you can tweak your talk-temp-base slightly so it will definitely work.  ILHI 17:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I know that. I did that originally. I only started getting problems when I started making the matching taglines, since if thay're random... well, they won't match will they? -- Sorceror Nobody, 17:48, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] LICENSE!

Don't forget about it please. Faethin^{verba volant} 15:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to do it, since the only relevant one is "Other - fill out form", and I see no indicated opportunity to fill it out even during uploading, let alone after. You'll have to tell me how to do it. -- Sorceror Nobody, 16:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem. If you created the image, merely release it under Creative Commons or Copyright (in which case you have to state it was self-created and that you consent its upload). If you took the image from elsewhere, you need permission from the creator to upload it.Faethin^{verba volant} 16:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Demon King

Chocobo World  ILHI 22:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, okay -- SN

[edit] FEC

Armageddon11 - "What's wrong, aquaboy? You fight like you're dying!" TALK - 18:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC) I'm just curious what you used to make the adverts at the bottom of it.

Sorceror Nobody – A Monument to Nothingness Talk · Flan's Elbow · Sandbox · User Articles: 1 2 3 4 5 · Walkthroughs: RoF · Puzzles Wiki · 19:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC) I initially took a screenshot of a real internet ad, which I then based the "frame" on. Having done that, I merely come up with an idea for an advert, search the web for any images I want, then basically slop it all together and paste the frame on top. My primary tool is MS Paint, though I use PhotoImpression for some of it. After that, I just upload the images, and put them into my Joke Ads template as possibilities for a standard <choose><option> randomiser. Category: Magicians agree not to reveal their secrets, but this ain't magic is it? :P

Armageddon11 - "History is written by the victor. History is filled with liars." TALK - 19:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Oh okay, thanks.

[edit] Re: Jump Rope

Terra_Homing - "Will you stagger on, with no star to light your way?" TALK - 22:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC) Hello, thought I'd bring this here rather then spam the Jump Rope discussion page, hope you don't mind :). The reason I tend to use American English on the wiki is simply for the sake of consistency. I think the official rule is that whatever spelling was there first is the one we should use but I like to see everything one way or the other, personally rather then some strange combination of spellings. Even if it is spelt the wrong American way.... It doesn't hurt to just drop a few 'U's or change the 'S's to 'Z's every now and again, does it?

In my time on the wiki, I've developed an ability to effortlessly slip into US spellings for markup, e.g. <font color=...>. However, this is a sort of automatic thing and does not work outside of markup. Peculiar as it may seem, I still have to make a conscious point of using US spellings when I want to in writing, even though it's effortless in the almost identical case where it just happens to be markup. Strange, no? It may not be a great deal more effort, but it's still slightly more effort than just using UK spellings. Besides, we all nurture minor rebellions, do we not? This is one of mine: a stubborn refusal to conform to stupid US spellings whenever I have the choice over which I use (which is virtually always to be fair). I actually consider US spellings to be dumbed down. Consider that the differences are almost all removal or replacement, most often ou→o, s→z and ph→f. Not to sound elitist, but I feel that the ability to remember where all the unexpected letters are in English demonstrates both a degree of intelligence and also shows that you've, you know, bothered to learn it. I'm not saying that US spelling simplification is required because Americans are thick, just that US spellings are less capable of weeding out the idiots and lazy ones compared to UK spellings.

Then again, there's no excuse for "Aluminum". That is just extreme laziness -- Sorceror Nobody, 22:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I suppose we do all have minor rebellions! I have to think about the spellings a lot too (stupid Armor pages give me so much trouble :D), and sometimes I've been tempted to make redirects just for my own benefit! Honestly though I really don't mind, trying to spot the English vs American words can only be improving any writing/spelling skills I might have.}}

[edit] Jeppo's Challenge Award

	"Star Player of the Zanarkand Abes! Didn't anyone tell you?"
	This cluttered eyesore is to certify that Sorceror Nobody has completed Jeppo's Challenge #4! We were all beginning to wonder how Seymour managed to slaughter the almost the entire Ronso race yet failed to defeat seven people in four attempts, and now we know why! Congratulations!

13-0! I'll have to beat that sometime. The best I've managed is 12-0 against the Kilika Beasts. Jeppo (Talk) 14:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Balthier's Hat

Violetmage - Sweater vests are a luxury in this day and age. TALK - And damn it feels good to be a gangsta!-02:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC) I must say that Balthier looks about ten points cooler with that swanky cowboy hat on. Nice work! (Does a thumbs-up).

Thank you very much <takes a bow> -- SN

[edit] Hello.

Naruto195 - "Goody Two shoes..." TALK - 20:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC) Just randomly saying hi. I saw that you are a Kingdom Hearts fan and I think its great.

[edit] Clash

People will bitch about anything I suppose. Clash wasn't in FF1, FF8 or FF9 either. Drake Clawfang 21:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I dunno about FFI, but you don't fight Gilgamesh in VIII or IX, so they don't count -- SN

Clash was in I. In the PSP version, at least. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 21:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Well it wasn't in the GBA version, if YouTube is an indicator. Drake Clawfang 21:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Even so, if it was in any version of FFI, it is enough. No version of VI has it, right? So my point stands -- SN

[edit] Userpages content-remover

CloudStrife456 is removing content from userpages of anyone he's angry at...Just because, we keep reverting his edits that Cloud's VA in dissidia is Steve Burton. Just thought I let you know, since I don't know how to deal with it. --Silver Mage 12:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to deal with it either, although I suggest that it may be sufficient to threaten him with a ban until the official VA announcement (whenever that will be). Obviously, I'm not an admin, so I can't make any such threat, nor carry one out -- SN

Well, nevermind, I guess this issue's been resolved already. --Silver Mage 13:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)