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ScatheMote - 21:57, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

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Contents 1 FFI Elemental affinities 2 psp 2 3 link 4 Pictures? 5 Question. 6 Categorizing 7 Pal, I need help 8 Question. 9 Whos better? 10 Images 11 Templates (Which I'm starting to think is a waste of time to make...)! 12 Why... 13 Music Categories 14 Hey! Got a little project for ya if you want to try! 15 FFXI Blue Magic 16 Dude, you rock! 17 Its an English article 18 Because we all agree you deserve it 19 My new images

[edit] FFI Elemental affinities

Just a quick question that I'd like to ask since you seem to have a good knowledge of the subject. For the enemies for Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II, do elemental affinities differ depending on the version of a game (eg. an enemy can be weak against Fire in the NES version, but not in the GBA version)? Oh, and welcome back! I missed you! Jeppo (Talk) 13:33, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

The elemental changes are the same in FFII. However, the names aren't all the same (e.g. Lightning/Bolt). FF however, there are are a few odd elements that were changed. In the NES version (and maybe PS version [can't confirm that]) there are the extra elements of (they don't have names [using a FAQ's names) Status, Poison/Stone, Time, and Death. Status consists of all the status effects except Poison and Stone, which have their own element. Time is magics STOP and ZAP!, and Death is RUB and XXXX. These elements show which enemies are weak or immune to certain status effects, i.e if Chaos is immune to Time, he can't be effected by STOP and ZAP!. The GBA version replaced these elements with Mind, Body, Dimension, and Death. I am unsure of what element pertains to what in the GBA version, but you can rest easier and know that the elements of MBDD are already on all the FFI enemy pages in the GBA section. Or, you can just ignore and delete the status elements because they are pretty irreverent and are only their to help the game function (whew, I wrote a lot for no real reason).

Also, thanks for the welcome back Jeppo, it's great to be back! ^.^ ScatheMote 13:51, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

OK, so for FFII there is Fire, Bolt/Lightning, Ice and Poison, and for FFI There is Fire, Ice, Bolt/Lightning and Dia and for NES and possibly PS: Status, Poison/Stone, Time and Death, and for GBA and PSP: Mind, Body, Dimension and Death. OK. I'll work on the FFI and FFII template on my sandbox and I'll call back to see what you think of it. Jeppo (Talk) 15:30, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: here you go. I had to shorten the Poison/Stone element to Poison due to space constraints, but I could change it to Poi/Sto or something. Anyway, are you happy with it? Jeppo (Talk) 15:49, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Looks quite good, but in FFI there is also an Earth element (that I forgot to mention) that affects the hit rate of QAKE and the special attack of Chaos CRACK, which only appears in the NES version (and PS version, but I don't really know). ScatheMote 16:44, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've added Earth in. I've also added the Earth element in for PS but not for GBA and PSP. I seem to recollect in the PS bestiary that enemies can be immune to Quake anyway. How does it look?

Looks good to me! I can help with the NES part of it when I have time, if you need it. ScatheMote 18:24, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I'd best put the template up. I don't know how much I'm going to do tonight but I'll try my best. Jeppo (Talk) 18:29, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I'm a little bit confused. How can I word this... For the GBA/PSP version, does the Mind, Body and Dimension affinities have anything to do whether it is immune to status effects? For example, Does Mind tell you if it is immune to, say, Confusion or not? I thought that for the NES and PS versions, Status, Poison, Earth, Time and Death tells you whether it resists certain statuses or not. That was why I removed the Resistance field. Am I wrong? Jeppo (Talk) 19:35, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Mind/Body/Dimension/Death replaced Status/Poison/Earth/Time/Death in the GBA version. However, we should probably keep the fields in both the NES/PS and GBA/PSP as the fields aren't self-explanatory on what they actually protect the enemy from (well, the NES/PS names are almost self-explanatory, but not really). ScatheMote 19:48, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] psp 2

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} hello.Apparently in the psp version of 2 magic can only level up once per battle.proof?well my toad spell was almost at level 9.then i spent an hour in a Battle using it.every turn.after the battle it was on level 9.

[edit] link

http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:EternalNothingnessXIII/My_Final_Fantasy_Game ZACH

[edit] Pictures?

Biggs&Wedge - are the Red Wings - the pride of Baron! TALK - 18:01, October 7, 2009 (UTC) So hey, not sure exactly what just happened, but am I Ok with my pictures now?

ScatheMote - 01:45, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, all of the pictures are fine. The only problem was that you made the Our appearances in the mainspace, when it really should be titled User:Biggs&Wedge/Our appearences (don't worry, I've already fixed all this).

Biggs&Wedge - are the Red Wings - the pride of Baron! TALK - 18:01, October 7, 2009 (UTC) Ok Thanks Bud ^_^

[edit] Question.

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} hello.Can u tell me were this quote is from?:"So, you've managed to reach these depths. I commend you. But your journey ends here, I'm afraid."If its from a game i want to play it.

ScatheMote - 00:09, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

It's what Cerberus says when you fight him in the Dawn of Souls/20th Anniversary versions of Final Fantasy.

[edit] Categorizing

No problem. - Ash Crimson 00:23, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

...Ok.. there is a problem :\ Am I supposed to put [[<Category:Final Fantasy III Enemy Images>]] in the comments box? or is there another place for it? sorry :\ - Ash Crimson 02:39, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Nice, thanks I get it now. - Ash Crimson 02:47, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Its fine. How do I change it? - Ash Crimson 03:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but I uploaded like 130 more of these like 2 weeks ago and didn't categorize them. :\ - Ash Crimson 03:19, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Pal, I need help

TenzaZangetsu 12,794 October 26 2009 (UTC)  -   "Aye, this stain is mine to bear. But I will bear it willingly, knowing that I did all that I could...for hope!": I'm playing FFVI and I'm the part where you can go to the Floating Continent but before I go there I want to teach Gau some Rages and Strago some Lores, can you tell me which ones are the best ones, please? Thank you in advance.

[edit] Question.

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} hello.listen scathe right that in 4 your final party is cecil, kaine, rosa, ridia and edge? im playing threw it and im in the part were you steal the airship from the tower of babel and cid fixes it so it can fly over lava. any tips? thanks in advance.

[edit] Whos better?

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} hello.thanks for the tips.Now for the election!listen, of these 3 characters who do you think is cooler:leon from 2, edge from 4 or shadow from 6?.

ScatheMote - 22:24, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Erm, I like Edge the most, followed by Shadow, with Leon bringing up the rear.

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} why does everyone underestimate leon!He was awesome!I admit he dosint have as good a backstory as the others but come on he was the first anti hero heroish person.

ScatheMote - 18:09, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

He may have been the first anti-hero in the series, but he didn't have a noticeable personality (nor did Firion…odd). And Leon was totally useless in battle. Also, I don't particularly like Shadow either, and Edge is pretty unlikable as well. However, Edge is first on the list because I can actually remember him having lines, and some of them were moderately good.

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} useless in battle?leon was awesome!when he joins your party he comes with all his weapon levels on 6-7 or higher.Also characterwise at the end of the game when every ones supposed to be rejoicing he leaves and firion swears they will meet again.Come on that was awesome.Its been done but not before finalfantasy 2.

ScatheMote - 18:51, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

In the PS version, Leon was terribly useless. He had pathetically low HP, and his weapon skills weren't very high. And for the fact that Leon left the party in the end; I can barely remember the ending of Final Fantasy II. Clearly it didn't leave any impression on me. Josef and Gordon had much clearer personalities than Leon, though they did stop speaking when they joined your party.

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} even if thats true as a character he rules he has just the right amount of mystique to be awesome and he will always be awesome in my book.

Progmansp - ...アルテマウェポン is mine. TALK - {{{time}}} and another thing. the ending from 2 was pretty cool. after beating the emperor in hell your teams meets everyone in fyn, hylda thanks them, litlle kain says he wants to be a dragoon and leon leon leaves.then you see your soul of rebirth party as spirits or whatever.but it was pretty cool and the whole time your listening to the rebel army theme cuz your in fyn.The rebel army theme rules!

[edit] Images

Biggs&Wedge - are the Red Wings - the pride of Baron! TALK - 22:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC) Okay, what did you just do to my images and how do I do it? I have the tools to remove simple backgrounds from pictures really easily and I can drift around and do that but I have no doubts that you don't want to be fixing everything I do. I can Imagine that that would not put me up very high in your estimates.

ScatheMote - 22:41, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I simply put your images in the proper category. You can do this by writing [[Category:<Category name>]]. For example, for the Luca Goer image you just uploaded goes in the [[Category:Final Fantasy X Images]]. You can put the category name after you upload the image or in the summary box when you upload it (preferred).

Biggs&Wedge - are the Red Wings - the pride of Baron! TALK - 22:42, November 8, 2009 (UTC) Roger that. Thanks Boss

ScatheMote - 22:43, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, anytime.

[edit] Templates (Which I'm starting to think is a waste of time to make...)!

Xenomic TALK - 02:01, November 11, 2009 (UTC) Alright, so I've done all that I can think of for the FFIX Ability Template on my Sandbox, and was wondering how it looks to you? I don't think we want to list every individual Auto-Ability that can go there (I'm hoping not...), though I'm starting to feel like this is a waste of time making them....just wanna know yer input ^^;;

ScatheMote - 02:08, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm divided. Does each Auto-Ability have its own page? If yes, most definitely add all the auto abilities. If not or if less then half have them, then no. And also, I'm don't really like the magic section. If you are going to make ability templates for each game (I'm assuming), then the current magic template will be have to be shrunk to only recurring magic. And also, if you are going to make one for every game, I think 15+ navs at the bottom of Fire a little excessive. So, if you are going to make the IX ability template, I suggest doing so if most of the Auto-Abilities have pages, and skip the magic section of it.

Xenomic TALK - 02:12, November 11, 2009 (UTC) I agree on the magic, but that's how the FFX Abilities template is already (and like I said, it feels like a waste even doing these templates to me in a way. I don't mind each ability having its own page, but an entire template just for them is a bit excessive, especially if we add those templates to the abilities pages too...). As for the Auto-Abilities, oi vey. I think at least half of them has pages, though that would mean we'd have to make a page for each of the abilities that do not have a page yet (which apparently ILHI wants to do....though I'm still a bit against having an ability page just for an ability that's appeared in one game and isn't that significant x_x)

ScatheMote - 02:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well, we do that for FFT. A insane amount of abilities that only appear there have their own page. And FFT has a nicely organized template (which is a template just for them). So, I'm with ILHI on this one.

Xenomic TALK - 02:20, November 11, 2009 (UTC) Well....I suppose that's fine for that I guess...though does that mean that we're going to have 2 templates for some games then if less than half of the abilities only appear in said game??

ScatheMote - 02:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, we're probably going to have to do this with V and VIII (and other games that have many support abilities) if we're doing it with FFT and IX. So, this is going to be a moderately large project. :/

Xenomic TALK - 02:26, November 11, 2009 (UTC) Well...how about we try this. I can work on the templates that I'm currently working on, and you work on the Abilities templates per game? Up to you though....I have NO idea how the heck it'll be done for anything non-Job class related.....THAT'S the real issue here....

ScatheMote - 02:29, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we have to do it for any game that doesn't have many support and command abilities. So probably we should do it for V, VIII, IX, X, T, TA, and A2.

Xenomic TALK - 02:33, November 11, 2009 (UTC) Hm.....not a bad idea. Well, IX and X's Ability Templates are pretty much done (save for me adding Auto-Abilities, though they aren't on the X Ability Template soo.....dunno....). I'll leave those off for the time being, and move onto...hmm....possibly V or VIII for the Abilities Template. Oi vey this is ridiculous to me lol x_x.

ScatheMote - 02:36, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

And I'll get started on the pages. ._. And this must have been the shortest wikibreak you've taken so far, with you wikibreaking for about 3 hours. :D

Xenomic TALK - 02:37, November 11, 2009 (UTC) I blame you guys for bringing up these damn templates and pages -V-

Xenomic TALK - 04:18, November 11, 2009 (UTC) User:Xenomic/Sandbox What do you think of the templates thus far over there? I'm still working on FFVIII's right now (gotta add the Magic spells to the list....)?

[edit] Why...

Are you adding the FF9 ability template to pages that already have the Ability template on them? Drake Clawfang 22:05, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Why do you think? Because the FFIX abilities template is supposed to have abilities on it that aren't on the main abilities template. But of course, these guys are still adding the one-off abilities to that template, further cluttering them. Come on guys: Crisis Core? XI? We didn't do it with them, did we?

IX is going to use different names for their abilities. Two examples

1. The Abilities template lists "Killer", an ability not in IX. This isn't actually going to make sense to most people, but the IX template lists each killer ability. So if they want to read up on Bug Killer, they know to look under the IX template, and then click on the name.
2. "Magic Counter" isn't an ability in IX. But Return Magic is. So if I looked on the abilities template having only played IX, I'd never find what I'm looking for. The IX template makes it clearer.  ILHI ^(W/B) 16:44, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Music Categories

So should I start moving the samples to the categories you're making? - Ash Crimson 21:38, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't help finish :\ my brother took my usb network adapter. - Ash Crimson 03:42, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hey! Got a little project for ya if you want to try!

Xenomic TALK - 08:32, December 4, 2009 (UTC) Well, since yer the FFII player here, would you be interested in grabbing the status images from FFII, as well as the spell images? That's something for you to do, if you think you can spare the time to do so that is ^^;;

ScatheMote - 12:10, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I dislike using emulators, so unless I scrounge Youtube for the spell image, I don't think I'll be able to help (and since you don't have any videos pertaining to FFII, that would be hard :P). Your best bet is to ask TZ who's been getting the spell images for FFII anyway.

[edit] FFXI Blue Magic

Sorry for putting the spells under the "XI abilities" category rather than the "XI spells" category. I was also going to ask FoF to use the category, but I was too slow and you also used the abil-stub templates, which I didn't think of either. So thanks ^^ 8bit 02:28, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

It's fine, and it's not really a big deal. At least we caught ourselves on the fifth one, and not the twentieth. ScatheMote 02:33, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for not using categories initially. Should I do some more XI articles for the wiki? FaythOfFenrir 17:49, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

As long as put something into them (with the Blue Magic spells, you put in the magic stats for example), it's always good to add more articles. ScatheMote 17:52, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Also, you may want to read this before making some FFXI articles. ScatheMote 17:55, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

What licensing do I use for images imported from another wiki? FaythOfFenrir 18:00, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Stick {{SECopyright}} on it and source the image in the summary. Or, if you'd like, you can use {{Copyright}} as well as {{SECopyright}}. ScatheMote 18:03, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Final Question, Does the wiki have a XI enemy template? FaythOfFenrir 18:06, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

No. As the forum above states, we aren't covering individual enemies (since there are about 10,000). ScatheMote 18:20, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Then I'll just work on filling in VI enemy templates. FaythOfFenrir 18:23, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dude, you rock!

TenzaZangetsu 12,794 December 5 2009 (UTC)  -   "Common people are nothing but pieces, that I can control at will": I wanted to say a while ago but I always forgot, you're awesome. Out of all the users, you're one of the most complete and more helpful around and you're also a great person. You know I'm a arrogant asshole but I wanted to thank you for being this helpful, I never understodd why you weren't turn into a Staff Member.

ScatheMote - 23:17, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

TZ, thanks. Seriously, I mean it. And TZ, you deserve modship as much as I do, and I don't believe you to be an arrogant asshole, so don't put yourself down so much. But anyway, thanks a bunch! ^.^

TenzaZangetsu 12,794 December 5 2009 (UTC)  -   "Common people are nothing but pieces, that I can control at will": No need to thank me, you earn it. Also, thanks, but I know I'm a asshole, that's what makes me so cool :).

[edit] Its an English article

Explain to me how its not being a Japanophile when you try to do that. 4RM0 21:47, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

It's the official name for a Japanese voice actor. ScatheMote 21:49, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

And the English term for a voice actor is voice actor. Why don't you change the article so it says "Voice Actor" instead of "English" like it does currently? Its the official name, after all. 4RM0 21:50, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Because writing "English" is much clearer then writing "Voice Actor". Seiyū is clearly the Japanese voice actor, and "English" is clearly the English voice actor. Though we could write "Voice Actor". ScatheMote 21:53, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

No, because it clearly states that that is the "Voice Cast" section. We're listing the column for English voice actors, and Japanese voice actors, and having Japanese and English as the column headers is making that distinction clear to the reader of this ENGLISH article. Not everybody knows Japanese, buddy. 4RM0 21:57, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I really don't enjoy arguing. I still have a few counterpoints, but I don't feel like playing them. I don't care enough to argue about this for long periods of time, and this issue is so small it barely matters. ScatheMote 22:03, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Clearly its not, otherwise you wouldn't have made the revision. "Japanese" is a much clearer term and it fits with the column header of "English" for the English voice actors. Stubbornness by people with many contributions such as yourself is a pitfall of the Wiki concept. People don't argue with you because "clearly" you know what you're doing, and any attempt to change what you're doing is considered detrimental to the article(s) being changed. 4RM0 22:07, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

If you've come here to troll me, I am uninterested. If you want to know why I made the revision, it is because I considered the original format better. I considered it a small issue when I reverted it, and I still consider it a small issue. ScatheMote 22:12, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

"English & Japanese" makes much more sense than "English & Seiyu". Believe it or not, there was a time when I didn't know what "Seiyu" meant. But I can't remember a time where I didn't know what "Japanese" meant. English and Japanese, both languages. English and Seiyu, ones a language one is not. It just doesn't make sense. Small issue or not.  ILHI ^(W/B) 22:13, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

The table is labeled "Voice Cast". And it has a column labled "English" for the English voice cast. Therefor it is proper English to label the corresponding colum for the Japanese voice cast "Japanese" HarpieSiren 22:16, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Because we all agree you deserve it

	You have been given the Warrior award!
	In recognition of your efforts to defend the Final Fantasy Wiki from vandals and keep the pages clean for all our users, the staff has awarded you the title of "Warrior of the Wiki" for November. Congratulations, keep up the good work!

Faethin^{te audio} 02:38, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that was unexpected. Thanks a whole lot! ^.^ ScatheMote 02:59, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Congrats, dude! SSFF6B 23:27, December 9, 2009 (UTC)SSFF6B

Does this mean you like swords? If so that means we are one half of the Light Warriors! Anyhow, well done, you earned it. Jeppo (Talk) 23:53, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Congrats, Scathe! This is quite ironic, considering that I nominate you for the Warrior award last Month. ---- TenzaZangetsu 11 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] My new images

The ones you edited. first off, thanx. Second, please don't delete them as I am going to use them in the Final Fantasy Tactics Guide I am making for the wikia. Final Fantasy Tactics Walkthrough/Zidane2005

Thanx again, Zidane2005 14:37, December 15, 2009 (UTC)Zidane2005Zidane2005 14:37, December 15, 2009 (UTC)