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Aerith's page Edit

Hi,

I won't argue eternally over this, but I'll just paste what I told another contributor who eventually got my point as to why "combat abilities" is not accurate. I hope you'll take it under consideration.

"Her combat abilities are limited" is far too vague, and quite wrong actually.

1.As every other party member, she has 4 limit breaks.

2.She has a "normal" stat growth despite leaving after disc 1, and will have her strenghs and weaknesses just like any other character (see http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197341-final-fantasy-vii/faqs/45703 for proof).

3.If you decide to compare her solely on disc 1, then she is just as viable as any other character. She even gets the edge seeing as she is by far the most competent with magic, and magic tends to deal more damage than physical attacks in FFVII, but this is debatable.

4.If you decide to compare her overall, then assuming that she would be usable during the whole game, then again, the statement above applies, especially since magic gets more and more powerful as the game goes on.(But other characters compensate by having damage-dealing limit breaks)

Therefore, her combat abilities are not limited, the character itself isn't usable after disc 1, but through this disc, she is as good as anyone else, and for some reason she was programmed to keep up if she was to be around longer. I don't know if you played FFIX, but by definition Aerith has no limitations unlike, for example, Beatrix who couldn't enter trance and couldn't use any support abilites.

She could have had just 1 limit break, or her stats could have maxed out earlier( like Tellah's MP in FFIV for example), but they don't, do they? Do you see my point? The term "limitation" or "limited" associated with "combat abilities" is not good since she doesn't have any, unlike other past Final Fantasy characters as mentionned earlier.

However, she DOES have less powerful weapons than the other party members, and no matter how you see it, she won't ever be able to get stronger weapons than the princess guard, hence my initial edit. My bad, forgot to sign Badag (talk) 15:19, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sign your posts, Badag. Keltainentoukokuu is a moderator and thus she has more of an idea of what content should be on the article and what shouldn't be. Try not to drag this out, we've seen many disagreements go on forever without reaching a conclusion. EDIT- Also, Espritduo undid your edit, not Kelt, she was tidying stuff up. Tia-Lewise 14:55, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

You're answering to a wrong person. I think the statement is meant to mean that the use of leveling up Aeris is limited because you can't keep her in your party past disk 1, and she would thus still take a spot from your party that could be used for someone else who you can keep for a whole game. If you're not into grinding you are only going to learn so many Limit Breaks and is it worth teaching them to her then. Maybe it is worded a bit weirdly though.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:15, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Warriors of LightEdit

Alright, alright, I can see that being logical. --Christengo (talk) 20:21, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Category Edit

Thanks for the ios category...I wanted to establish one before but...東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 10:08, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

To create new categories, add a non-existent category to a picture and then it will appear as a red link among the categories. Click on it and you can create it!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 11:44, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

That's not what I meant. I thought that since there was no difference in the iOs and DS graphics, there was no need, so if I created one, people would want to delete it. Anyways. Oh umm you have FFIV for ipod? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 13:58, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

There is difference in the graphics.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:30, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

That's why I'm uploading them. Hmm, is it really useful for the wiki in your opinion? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 14:54, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

They are very nice and crisp. :) I like them. They are superior to the DS version images and could be used for character and location articles. As for the spells and abilities, I am not sure should we keep both the DS version and the iOS version images separately (and use both in the image galleries). The interface is slightly different after all. I think you may want to upload those separately just to be sure.

I haven't got the iOS version myself. I am not in this smartphone thing at all yet! Touch screen puts me off. It's ok but can't see it ever being as precise as buttons. I have a Nokia dumbphone that probably will last forever, you know those old things that never break. :D Husband has a smartphone and it is pretty shiny though... Guess I could try some games on his phone. You know. For the good of the wiki. ;)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:23, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, the battle and spell images should be kept too. As you said, the interface is completely different. As for spells, the iOs graphics are worlds better. Maybe in the future the DS ones will get deleted (the summon images, the spells) Yep, the graphics are a million times better in everything (and this is just the ipod version, what more if you have the one for iPAD). (Dumbphone XD) And yes you are right. The touch system is really annoying when you're paranoid in the middle of the boss fight, especially when scrolling down your Inventory. I'm still used to the PSP controls, I really miss it... (You're married? That's awesome! You know, not a lot of wikians I know are married. He's a gamer too? If I'm not being too nosy..) 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 16:59, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah we met at a Final Fantasy fansite. :DDDDDDD I lived in Finland and he lived in the UK and then I went to Sheffield for an exchange student for a year when he went to uni there. Then I was supposed to go back to Finland after my year and do my last year at uni... but instead dropped out and moved here permanently! This was 2005-2006. Guess it sounds like a pretty shitty decision but never regretted it. Got married at 2007. So. Six years this year!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:09, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wow. You are married. That's the cool thing about it. I know this is really random but hey do you like yaoi~? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 17:52, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

I cannot believe you just asked our lovely Kelt that! Kelt, stay away from smartphones :P I have a Galaxy Ace and it causes me nothing but trouble. Tia-Lewise 20:14, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha. That's not really my thing. There is one yaoi story I like though although I don't remember how I landed on that. Guess it just boils down to...not enough vag.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 01:56, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I cannot help but laugh. - Tidus357 03:24, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I could not help but ask our lovely Kelt that~. I cannot help but laugh as well. Peace. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 07:25, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

FFIV Enemy Abilities Gallery Edit

Should we add in an iOs section? I don't think upgrading the DS shots are good...the interface is completely different. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 16:22, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think adding the iOS version images to galleries is a good idea.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 18:24, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

I'll work on them, then~ 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 04:40, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the wiki. <3 I haven't add new content in like forever. There's probably plenty I could still do!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:05, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

It's not like I'm doing it for someone, even though I'm literally slaving for the wiki XD It's been ages since I've been in this place anyway. You're welcome, though. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 10:34, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

VIII Enemy PagesEdit

You said the stats tables go beneath the infobox? I've made tweaks, so the issue might have been resolved, but is it still not working for you? JBed (talk) 21:39, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

It's working now. Looking great. :) It started working as intended after I updated Firefox, dunno if that helped.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 00:32, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sheep Edit

I had no idea we had a sheep article! Thanks for putting the image in ^_^ Tia-Lewise 23:47, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Np. That article is a bit obscure but looks like sheep have a role in FFXI so they get an article. That FFIX sheep is too cute! Maybe they were supposed to be in Dali or something.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 23:58, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Opinion Please Edit

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xenomic#iOS_portion

Help Please Edit

I'm creating the article for Dragoon (Boss) - the wiki doesn't have it yet. How the hell do I do the tables? I'm looking at the articles for Girl, Bard, and Dark Knight, but I don't have the slightest idea what the hell I should do...help please, lovely Kelt? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 16:13, April 22, 2013 (UTC)~

So that we don't need to do the code again for each page, the wiki uses templates that generates the infobox the way we want it, and all you need to do is fill in the stats. Every game has a different template for the enemy infobox. Look at the code for enemies of the same game to see how they work. I don't know which game you refer to, but I assume FFIV? You can use a sandbox and copy an infobox there and then play around with it to see what happens if you change the stuff in the code. Final Fantasy Wiki:Sandsea is a general sandbox that you can use.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 01:24, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

It's FFIV. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 07:30, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

 ? Edit

You pngified the Dragoon file I uploaded? You did the work? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 09:31, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

If I see files uploaded without a transparent background I try make them transparent if possible.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 13:45, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

You never told me you could pngify stuff! So I don't have to keep bugging Esprit! You know, I really don't want to bug him unnecessarily, he appears to be a very busy guy, scanning and all that, plus I have to help him with the FFIV ios bestiary. So can I turn to you, then, for the non-bestiary stuff I need pngified? :3 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 15:32, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

The only thing I can do is to select the background with the magic wand tool and press delete. If it needs more work than that you are probably out of luck with me! I'll do the ones I know I can do when they pop up in the Recent Images feed.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:37, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

A pity I do not have Photoshop. No, Dragoon was done well, it needs nothing more than that~ So, do you mind doing some more character renders? I've been wanting to update the DS renders with the iOS ones - the DS renders are fugly...I'll upload something for you...東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 16:21, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid I won't be able to remove the background from that one without it having jagged uneven edges.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 11:40, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Aww, damn, more slaving in MS Paint...東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 11:59, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

"Nice allusion"Edit

I don't want to sound rude or something, but are you being sarcastic with that "nice allusion" thing and 3s and 9s in HP of Tonberries from FFV and FFXIII-2? Kinda trivial question, but I'm eager to know.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 15:57, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

??? whatKeltainentoukokuu (talk) 16:52, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hiroyuki Ito page Edit

Hello. I saw your message about renaming the Hiroyuki Ito page. Thanks for the info.

If you don't mind, can you update his profile photo with this photo. I tried to upload it but it says only members can upload images and I want to remain anonymous. Thanks in advance. :-) 92.18.158.199 21:42, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah sure. What are you his biggest fan or what. ;)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 01:06, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I've seen that you've added the photo. Huge thanks for doing it! Also, yes, I'm a big fan of his work. I only found out about him a few years ago when I noticed that FFXIII played nothing like FFXII. I wanted to know why and discovered that different teams made the two games. FFXII is my fave FF game and FFIX is my second fave so I really like his work as director. I really hope he's directing FFXV. Regards. :-) 92.18.158.199 12:56, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

FFIV Level-Up Victory Poses Edit

In the victory page, FFIV's ds section mentions each character's victory pose - do you think we should add in their level-up poses? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 09:11, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

And also by the way, I've been reading the FFIV DS Developer's Office page - I've noticed that there are lot of differences. Should we just add the differences in, or make a new page for the iOS developer's office? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 09:59, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I think we should make a new page, if it is very different. :) I should think it would be more user-friendly that way. Can still link to the DS version in the intro, saying like the iOS version office is based on the DS one but it has numerous changes...lalala. If other games have victory poses on that article then FFIV could have them too.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 11:59, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I meant the level-up ones ^__^ All the plain ones are listed from every game. Okay then, should the pictures be separate as well? The staff took different forms in the ios. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 12:49, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well why not? :D More content is always more content. They could also go to the Level article that talks about leveling up?Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 13:20, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm...I think for the poses, they should go to the Victory Pose page...I'd be happy to upload the iOS level-up screen for FFIV, though. What about the Developers' Office images? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 14:57, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

If the Developer's Office looks different in the iOS version at all, then we can use them.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:04, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Only that the staff took different forms. Like, instead of a Bomb, it became a Baron Soldier, etc..but the rooms are the same. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 16:55, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

If the screenshots would look identical then there is little point in my opinion, but if the iOS screenshot brings anything extra to the table it is good especially if there will be an article specifically for the iOS version room. Use your own discretion, I have not played either version!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:19, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Oh well. Thanks anyway. 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 05:47, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Differences between versions are always welcomed ^_^ Tia-Lewise 10:57, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

FFIX Motherload Coming Edit

Heya, Kelt! I just wanted to let you know I'm about to start uploading a shitstorm of FFIX Location Artwork , and I know you always tend to link everything without me asking you anyways, but this one's a bit ridiculous, so I thought I'd actually ask if you could help me out. I'll link everything I can once I'm done, but anything anyone can do while I'm going nuts would help. Trying to organize this mess of location artwork has been a nightmare I've been putting off for way too long... Espritduo (talk) 00:55, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

Love all your artwork. :) Keep 'em coming!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 00:56, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! With all that easy stuff artist-specific stuff from the neogaf thread out of the way, now it's time for the real meat of the location artwork. Whoopee! Espritduo (talk) 01:45, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

*Poke*Edit

		Xenomic TALK - 01:45, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
		Just thought I'd let you know that I already did up to Spears. Didn't realize you were working on this as well, so I stopped. ^^;

Ya I saw, looks like they are all done now anyway! Espritduo is the best.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 01:46, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

		Xenomic TALK - 01:49, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
		Indeed. I didn't even know there were some dummied out things like that Man-Eater and Lacrose Racket (the hell is a Lacrose anyways??). Makes me wonder what other dummied out stuff there might've been.

Prolly meant to be a lacrosse (as in the sport) racket. They always design more stuff that than what is ultimately included, seeing all the discarded designs is well interesting. Too bad armor isn't visible; I want to see the Southern Tropical Outfits set. :DKeltainentoukokuu (talk) 01:54, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

		Xenomic TALK - 01:56, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
		Aye, would've been cool to see the things we normally wouldn't be able to see like the armor and add-on, I agree. Oh well...wonder if we'll actually get some things for X/X-2 in that regards next.

Well Esprit said he's done with school for now so let's hope so. FFX has plenty discarded scenario that has been uploaded on the wiki already. Looks like the game was originally envisioned to having taken place during Zanarkand's time but then was moved to be 1000 years later. Lovin all the rare artwork.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 02:05, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops, did I call that racket Lacrose somewhere? It should be Lacrosse, the sport. The name of the image is "Rakurosu CF" which would be Lacrosse CF. I assume CF is center field, as in, the racket is specifically a centerfielder's racket? I don't know jack squat about lacrosse, so I don't know if that makes sense. And yep, all that's left now for FFIX is the airship artwork, and it's onto book three and FFX, FFXI (which I have pretty much everything already here anyways), FFXII, FFXIII, and whatever little bit there is of FFXIV that we don't already have. No X-2 or XIII-2, though, I'm afraid. The 25th Memorial Ultimanias are strictly main series games only. Also, thanks for linking all that up. It really is a chore doing all that. Espritduo (talk) 03:31, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

		Xenomic TALK - 03:39, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
		I may have forgotten one letter myself, so it might be fine. But yeah, you're welcome! That is an awful lot you've been uploading, and we all appreciate it. ^^ Hopefully for at least X and XII, they'll have art of the weapons (which they would I'd assume) and the armor/accessories. Would be nice to have images of those for the pages here. ^^;

FFIV IOS OST Edit

Was browsing through the DS section of FFIV's OST page. Unless this wiki forgot to document some tracks there, the iOS version has a different track listing and more additional tracks. For example, the ending theme wasn't divided into three, they were put together in one. I couldn't see "More Tears" in the DS section either. Aaand Tsuki no Akari wasn't in the iOS Music Box. What should we do? 東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 13:03, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

The article is for the soundtrack release, not for the music from FFIV in general, therefore, any tracks that are not on the soundtrack will not be on the soundtrack article, even if they were in the game. If the iOS version has no soundtrack released there is no place to put info on its music, currently. The system could probably do with an overhaul but not too many people contribute to music articles here.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 13:06, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Game music articles would make so much more sense. 2.102.230.129 13:12, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

All right, I'll leave it alone for now..東方神起̅̅d̅̅i̅̅v̅̅i̅̅n̅̅e̅̅ΛКТŦ̅̅c̅̅r̅̅o̅̅s̅̅s̅̅ΛHUТΞ 16:00, May 21, 2013 (UTC)