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Gilgameshkun

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"I have awaited this - the day you would come..."
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Japanese Edit

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Thank you. I'm new here, but have been on Wikipedia easily half a decade. This place could use a bit more Japanese references, such as in comparisons in analyzing comments, scenes and plot points from more than one view than only corporate localizations that sometimes mangle or outright change the content (whether for content rating or mere target demographic interests). (For instance, Clyde and Baram's relationship in Japanese seems much warmer, though IMO may or may not be gay.) If I can help here, that's great. I try to approach all subjects here first and foremost from a multilingual, multicultural and multitranslational understanding. It only seems responsible to be as objectively no-nonsense as possible, and to cut down on any longwinded fanon. ^_^ - Gilgamesh 03:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Our number one editor here, Bluer (also from Wikipedia), speaks Japanese, as does admin Hecko, although he has sadly left the wiki. We seem to suffer an odd lack of Japanese speakers here, despite the existence of a Japanese edition of this site. Unfortunately, my Japanese skills are somewhat lacking. Any help would be welcome ;). If you need any assistance, feel free to drop me a line. -- YuanSaluto!Acta 03:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I'm not fluent either. I took one year of Japanese in high school, and picked up what else I know mainly online, though I have certainly made Japan friends along the way. I still rely quite a bit on Excite to help me prepare rough translations (though I always check round-trip translations, etc.). Anyway, how do I get cute image dialogue boxes like you're using and that I've seen on other talk pages? I wanna make one. :3 - Gilgamesh 03:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
These talk templates are the invention of TacticAngel, another admin here. Simply create a page named Template:Gilgameshkun or similar and paste the code from [[Template:TalkTextTest2|here]]. Edit the colours, image, sig etc to your liking, and save. Then, whenever you wish to say something, type {{Gilgameshkun|time=blah|text=blahblahblah}}. You can also check this section for more information. Have fun ;). -- YuanSaluto!Acta 03:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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Dragon's Neck Colosseum Edit

You and I need to have a wee little chat about that. First, at any time before saving an edit, preview it to make sure you have the coding correct, I always do that. Second, try to avoid excessive linking. Most of the links you posted there would have gone to the Weapon, Armor or Relic pages, which is pointless. Third, and most important of all, you should never link to a page that doesn't exist, ie, a red link, unless you plan on creating that page yourself soon. On a similar topic, check the links you're using. For example, the Thunder Blade page exists, but it concerns the Crisis Core ability, not the FF6 weapon, so it shouldn't be linked to. And try to avoid redirects - instead of linking to "Tortoise Shield", which is a redirect, link to "Imp Equipment|Tortoise Shield". As well, the flow chart and second betting list were useless, TBH. The flow chart was difficult and confusing to read, and there's nothing on it that a reader can't figure out by looking at the betting list.

It's awesome you were willing to invest so much time into doing those edits. But, always preview your edits, watch your linking, and consider if the information you're adding is relevant to the article subject. Thank you. Drake Clawfang 16:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. The three charts have focused purpose: The first chart is in alphabetical order depending on the item you're betting. The second chart is in alphabetical order depending on the item you want to receive. And the flowchart is incredibly useful if you want to quickly trace item betting paths that converge to common items. If you delete them, I will restore them. As for red links, hey, I use Wikipedia, and I constantly link relevant items whether the article exists or not, because a red link is merely an article that someone (whether it's me or not) has not created yet, and when someone else creates the article later, it will only add more work to link other article references to it that could have been done the first time. If it seems relevant, I'll link it, every time. - Gilgamesh 01:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
The flow chart can be useful, but what usage does the second list have, beyond providing the exact same information in a different order. And don't just revert things, in your revert you removed many redirect fixes that Henry had to put back. This is my entire point, pay attention to what you're doing. I am removing that second list though. There's just no point to listing the exact same information twice. Drake Clawfang 03:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Perfect example - in the current revision we link to Dragon Horn, which is merely a redirect to the FF6 Relic page. So just, as I said, preview your edits, and check what you are linking to. While, say "Crystal Helmet" doesn't have its own article, "Crystal Equipment" does, so that's a link you could have fixed. As I said though, Henry put back in place most of the links you removed. But in the future, just pay more attention when linking. Drake Clawfang 03:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
The rewards chart is useful because it helps a player who thinks, "Hm, I want so-and-so-item, so what can I bet that results in it? Oh, that-item? I don't have that-item...what can I bet that results in that-item?" All three lists represent different and wholly relevant modes of thought when trying to navigate the Colosseum. The first list is the mode of thought of "Let's see, I have so-and-so-item...if I bet it, what do I get? I know the game tells me, but I want to see all my possibilities right now without having to reset and check again every time." And the flowchart is "Hmm, now that I've read the first and second lists, I wanna see all the items at once that converge to the common so-and-so item. Now where is that item...oh, there it is. Ahh, I see, all those items converge to that common item. I need a bunch of those so-and-so, and I have enough of the originating items already to start, so..." All these modes of thought become valuable when you start to really spend lots of your gameplay time at the Colosseum. Like, hours, and not just a few minutes to advance some of the plot for Shadow or Gilgamesh. - Gilgamesh 03:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Very well, but if you wish that information to be added, I then request you fix the links, as I did at first, and then Henry. It's not hard, as I've said above. For example, just link "Crystal Helm" to "Crystal Equipment", etc, etc. Not hard, just a tad tedious. That's all I ask - keep the info, just fix the links that can be fixed. Drake Clawfang 03:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Alright. But it would help that goal if you tried not to be so blunt and quick to delete. It comes across as belligerence, especially when you edit more than one different article at once and demand the same editor's attention to all of them. It's a bit inconsiderate. As for Template:Fact, if you would have read the usage, you would have found out that it doesn't ask for a citation to be added, but merely for the language involved to be clarified to reduce ambiguity and ease common sense verifiability. But Henry already removed the VFD. - Gilgamesh 03:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
I work in the interests of the Wiki, but I am yet, still a WikiDragon. I don't often edit one page at a time at random - usually I make strafing runs across several pages. That's just how I work. Sorry if it offends you, but if I'm here to edit, I edit a lot. As for the Fact template, I explained my stance on the talk page. Drake Clawfang 03:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

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