Contents 1 We finally start 2 hey 3 sorry :( 4 ??? 5 ? 6 Hi^^ 7 Gah! My bad ^^;; 8 Page deletion 9 FI 10 ??? 11 Hello again. 12 Hi 8bit its me DissidiaCloud 13 New computer 14 TC 15 Admin! Help! 16 Image issues 17 Kuja 18 Images 19 Tsk, tsk 20 Delete 21 Reporting an Anony 22 I'm so shame of myself 23 Epik Zidane Iz Epik 24 Re:VII Enemies 25 Jecht Fayth 26 TC 27 WTF??? 28 Final Fantasy XIX... 29 Outside Linkage 30 *poke* 31 How Much Longer 32 Maybe I was thinking that the rooms are all on fire 33 Will you help me? 34 New Template

We finally start Edit

TenzaZangetsu 15,797 3 August 2009 (UTC)  -   "What kind of a house doesn't have salt? Low sodium freaks!!": Due to total lazyness, I started right now the attack at Fynn, you can start writing now, go here:Forum:FFII Fan Fic/Attack at Fynn.

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sorry :( Edit

I'm already doing this, it was only that time I forgot.: (

I terivelmente Sorry will not happen again ;) continue working as that exelent adiministrador that you are^^

SinDra the Fire angel

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Marexl - "Next time I suggest you try fighting back." TALK - "Come on." - 20:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Remember me?

Hi^^ Edit

hello you are a administrator right? can you answer a question? I want to write an article about the architecture of the cities of the Final Fntasy but i do not know if this is allowed, if is authorized where I put it? thank and apologize for disturbing you with such basic things. Sindra The Fire Angel 23:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a really good idea, actually. I've always loved the architecture of the series as well. The page you have in mind can be constructed like the Music of Final Fantasy page, and be called Architecture of Final Fantasy. Maybe you'd like to bring the idea up on the forum topic you created? Create a new section and ask if people have ideas for this article, or you can start it yourself and people can discuss it on the talk page. 8bit 01:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

thanks, I'm already writing^^ Sindra The Fire Angel 22:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Gah! My bad ^^;;Edit

Page deletion Edit

I did; that doesn't mean I know what the hell it was. :P -- Armond WarbladeFile:Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 23:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, okay. ^^ The VFD reason made me think that you completely forgot about the subpage and came back to find there randomly there for no useful reason. XD 8bit 00:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

FI Edit

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 06:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering if you thought about mentioning (in the image description) Cloud's promise to take Aeris aboard the airship during disc 1. It seems appropriate for the image, as that is the point in the game I believe it depicts.

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 ??? Edit

the same e-mail you mean? is because we are brothers and we do not want to use our real e-mails to stuff like that. this is no reason to block! Sindra The Fire Angel 21:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait. User: Zen Mage is your brother? And he edits from the same house as you? Do you use the same computer? 8bit 21:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, sign your posts with four tildes, please. I need to run off again; you'll need to bring this up when I come back in several hours or with another admin. It also helps not to spaz out at staff members. 8bit 21:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

is hard to tell our parents are separated we live in diferents houses but study in the same shcool, we love RPG and we creat that e-mail to stuff like that we also divid a Ragnarok acout to remain united and etc.. so plz i beg reconsider your decision Sindra The Fire Angel 21:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello again. Edit

Hi, umm i here today to ask you if you can take a look at my article and say this is okay or is this missing something. please...:) Architecture of Final FantasySindra The Fire Angel 14:13, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi 8bit its me DissidiaCloud Edit

New computer Edit

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 20:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

It appears your shiny new computer is in the same family as mine. If you feel like you could use any help at all with setting it up or maintaining it (as long as it's long-distance help), feel free to ask; I've probably already been through it.

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 20:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

"Reboot" and "restart" are the same thing. Reboot is just the "more technical" term in computing. If you go looking for a router, make sure you get a list of the routers supported by your internet service provider. The ISP's website should have that list somewhere, but you can call them if you don't find it. Fortunately, when you have the router and it's plugged into everything, your laptop's wireless NIC should find it automatically. Don't fear asking obvious questions. When I was younger, I asked my grandfather and stepdad every one of them.

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 18:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I prefer the gigstick method, because there are often things that either only need to be one one computer or simply aren't needed anymore. It may be wise for the sake of speed to zip (right click | Send to | Compressed file) the files before you put them on the stick. It will make the transfers to and from the stick faster, then it should only take a second or two to unzip them on the laptop. This can also turn multiple trips into one.

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 02:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I used to be one of those Firefox people, but I have since seen the light. I consider Internet Explorer 8 a priority, as it spots and responds to over 60% of malicious Web content. By comparison, Firefox 3 can only stop 30% and Internet Explorer 7 only gets 4%. You're in luck when it comes to getting IE 8. It is a free update in Windows, so at some point the computer will just go ahead and get it and not waste any extra space when it does. Speaking of the differences between IE and Firefox, if you use IE 8 you will notice that some buttons on Wikia (and a lot of ILHI's code) look off-center. This is why some people think IE is bad. The truth is that, in return, IE 8 can display and play more types of files (such as BMP and wiki sound files) than Firefox can, without any space-stealing add-ons. I hope that helps with the browser decision.

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 02:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

You can probably wait to get an external drive. It only serves two general purposes. On one hand, it gives you more than a couple of GB of portable memory, so you can take projects with you. I find that having a laptop pretty much kills this purpose. The other is for backing up your computer. Saving backup files to an external harddrive is eventually much more cost-effective than buying mountains of DVDs to save onto. You have two computers, so this it is less useful in this respect, too. As long as you keep your most important files on both computers and keep your laptop stored away from your desktop (in case a fire takes half of your house or something), your files should be fine in most plausible cases.

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 03:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. A word of advice for the college computer before I go to sleep: a good way to keep school files safe is to use an HTML mail service (like hotmail or gmail) to send your homework to yourself as an attachment, then save the email. This keeps your assignment locked in a password-protected pocket of cyberspace from which you can load it anywhere. I know a few people who were saved by this after hastily deleting an assignment they actually still needed.

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TC Edit

I know I'm the last person you'd expect to talk about it, but I just wanna know if it's okay to kill some of your characters. Leon5550 07:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Which ones, specifically? I'm planning to kill at least three, and there are certain ones I'd like to keep alive. Perhaps this would be better over IRC? 8bit 15:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Admin! Help!Edit

Okay Point of No Return: Can you do these things:

1. Delete the article (but not talk page)
2. Restore all edits from HenryA's edit on the 18:24, 13 August 2009: (Point of no return is not the place or event that triggers the final battle!) up (and including).
3. Move the page to "Unrevisitable Locations" (but not talk page) --Suppress redirect
4. Go back to the (now dead) Point of No Return article
5. Restore all remaining edits of the article before initial deletion

Now we have two articles with all the correct histories! You can see why I want this done on Talk:Point of No Return (tl;dr: HenryA revamped the page wrong).

If there's an easier way to split an article I don't know it.  ILHI 16:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright, so all edits from Henry's edit changing the page to "unrevisitable locations" is moved to Unrevisitable Locations, and everything before that is retained in the same place as Point of No Return. Sounds good before I start pushing buttons? 8bit 16:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

So all revisions after HenryA changed the definition of the page are moved to Unrevisitable Locations, and all edits up to the revision before Henry's are restored and left at "Point of No Return". Yes. It hurts my head to think about it.

I had to test everything to make sure it would at my own wiki earlier. It did.  ILHI 16:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Yay! Everything you did was perfect.  ILHI 16:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for providing directions ^^ This proves I can do wikiwork on my shiny new laptop... win. 8bit 16:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you delete Dungeon so I cans work? There are two uses of Dungeon, the "Location", and the "Theme". The theme is the piece of music played in the location so therefore the theme is a child, already mentioned on the locat article.

Delete plz.  ILHI 14:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Okays. 8bit 14:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Image issues Edit

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Epopt — 02:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if that is the problem being had, but it is true that JPG images cannot be transparent. That is only possible with GIF and PNG.

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Kuja Edit

Yo, howdy disciple, guess who this is. :p. I bring you tidings of good cheer - Zidane and Kuja sound alright. Kuja sounds good, Zidane is tolerable, but overall they didn't fuck it up as much as they could have. 64.228.216.113 01:17, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, you're right, it isn't fantastic, but it isn't horrible XD Kuja probably sounds more like his old arrogant self when he isnn't dissolving into space, so look for the other cutscenes for even more Kuja-ish behavior, methinks ^^ At least Zidane isn't all broody like Cloud/Squall. Actually, he sounds good. Glad to see you're following this right up till the release XD 8bit 02:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh aye. I got a PSP and downloaded the demo earlier today...in the past 8-9 hours, I stopped playing for about a hour to eat supper, that's it. I LOVE THIS GAME!!!! 64.228.216.113 02:27, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Lulz, if that's your reaction to the demo, then I can imagine what happens when you get the game. Sort of like my reaction to FFIX, where I got up to Burmecia before finally turning it off. ^^ Yays, now you can be our Dissidia expert! MAKES TEH PAGES O.O

Hmm, I forsee a problem with the Dissidia character pages. We're going to have users fighting over which quote is used as the introductory quote. You know the problems we've had with the quotes, so.... -_-; Maybe we could have a poll for quotes for each character? Include a quotes section will multiple entries? or just pick one quote and keep it forevar? ^^ 8bit 02:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry 8Bit, talking to the right person on the wrong time. I'm on WikiBreak, Dissidia pages can go to hell. I went on break so I could stop worrying about shit like Quotes and VAs! Talk to me next week :p 64.228.216.113 02:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, oh well ^^ I think the maruding VA anons have gone away for a while. I look forward to your return, master 8D 8bit 03:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I have a idea on the quotes. You can make them random so we don't have to fight over what quote to use.  NeoZEROX  03:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Too much, I think. I like the voting idea, as this is one of the few things for which we should turn to popularity. Eric Ryan Jones 04:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Also 8Bit, another mystery solved - it's pronounced "zih-don". I guess we call him Don Zidane from now on. :p 64.228.216.113 07:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

^^ Don Zidane = Don Juan? They almost rhyme, and it makes sense. I've always called him "Zid-ayne". Hmm, wonder if I'll switch. Also, sometimes fan-translated scripts are better than canon ones :/ 8bit 22:29, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Me too. I'm wonder if any of the other characters pronounce it differently. Also, I'm gonna show this to Fae - Terra is adorable! 64.228.216.113 22:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, what? That's a Kingdom Hearts Moogle! (I love how I know this even though I've never played the game. That's what wikis do.) English-exclusive scene? Hehe, your images reminded me that I wanted to put in a new talk archive images to replace my beloved XII Espers. Although Garnet will always reign as number one :P 8bit 22:43, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

8Bit, I have newfound sympathy for the VAs of the game. Kuja's VA, JD Cullen, revealed how sloppy SE's direction was, at least for him. Basically, he was told nothing about who he was playing, he was just given his lines, told to sound "breathy and feminine", and to try and imitate the Japanese VA, which of course he found difficult and is why his dialogue has awkward pacing. If this is how all the VAs were handled, it explains why some of them are subpar. Drake Clawfang 20:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Images Edit

I see you posted in my talk page, lol... I shall rename the images now, if they haven't been removed, if they have I'll have to do it in the morning, lol...
EDIT: I changed the name, now it's rather long but less vague and sorry that I didn't realize I hadn't even categorized it :S
EDIT2: I fail, miserably, I messed up... Lol, if I can't sort it out, I'm probably gonna have to ask for help... Cloudintheskies 21:12, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Linking to the images in question always helps. 8bit 22:29, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Terribly sorry... I was trying to replace this (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:Perished_Monster.png) with this (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:Attack_Misses_Perished_Enemy.png) but I dunno, I guess I just fail...Cloudintheskies 22:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, no, that is a better title. I'll replace the old image on the Final Fantasy page with your new one and delete the old one, okay? And don't worry, a lot of images on this site have longer names than yours ^^ 8bit 22:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Lol, okay, thanks!! Oh yeah, just curious, is it ONLY staff who can delete images or can members delete their own images? Just curious because I looked around for about 10-20 minutes but couldn't find a delete button or link, lol...Cloudintheskies 22:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Yep, only staff may delete images. However, any member can indicate that an image or article should be deleted with Template:VFD. Simply place the template at the top of the page:

{{VFD|reason= Reason why it should be deleted}}

This way, admins can be notified easily. 8bit 22:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

So I would just add this to the top of the image page? Cool, at least I now know what to do, thanks for all the help ^^Cloudintheskies 22:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem ^^ Also, to clarify, only administrators can delete pages, not moderators. 8bit 22:52, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I'm now learning even more about the wiki :D Cloudintheskies 22:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Tsk, tsk Edit

DeleteEdit

Can you delete User:ILHI/Functions.js plz? I can't VFD it because of the .js suffix. Also, can you delete Monk yet?  ILHI 19:56, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

But I no likes your wanting of Monk to be deleted T-T Same with Dark Knight; if there are enemy pages to be linked, the (Job) tag should exist. 8bit 20:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

BS. Okay, there is one. That is Yang in FFIV. He was called "Monk" BECAUSE THAT'S HIS JOB CLASS. If you wanted to find that boss, you're most likely to type in "Yang" anyway. But if you don't, you'll be taken to the job page, which will be tag-less, which has a link to Yang, AND ALSO, a link to the ENEMY PAGE. The Monk in TAY is a job class, and the bosses of the same name are the TAY Monk's child.  ILHI 20:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Talking about that, 8Bit, can you please help me with the font color of this template:User:TenzaZangetsu/Zangetsu's FFT WTHeader?. --TenzaZangetsu 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Why use your talkbox 8bit? If there are two discussions that have split, you do not use your talkbox because you interrupt the flow of conversation completely. Now I have to say "@8bit:" whenever I'm talking to you, rather than replying beneath you and adding an extra colon.

"The monk in TAY is not a job class" Yes they are. The Monks in TAY are just Monks. They are a generic class of characters, who are all Monks. It's almost exactly the same. If you're going to allow this, then go on, disambiguate at Dragoon. The Dragoons in II aren't a job class. It also has a IX section, which isn't a job class. So, I've just given to you a much worse situation WHICH WORKS FINE.

"The reason I am against this is that creating the Monk page by moving Monk (Job) info there and adding links to the IV and TAY enemies/characters makes the page a mash of consistent Job) articles with random enemy/character info in." -Monk in TAY IS NOT a character. He is, at most, three people at any one time. They are not random enemies. And LOOK at the Monk (Job) page. IT'S FINE. And it's been fine the whole time, yet it's all linked up, and ready to be moved back to its tagless name. It links to the TAY job class, and even to the IV boss, though it shouldn't need to cuz there's already a Yang link. The TAY boss doesn't need to be linked because it's the child of the TAY job class. We don't disambiguate Ramuh because you fight him in IV and TAY.  ILHI ^{20:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)} In an ideal world, "Dragoon" would have information about what classes something as a Dragoon; "Dragoon (Job)", a child, would have informations about the job classes; "Dragoon (Final Fantasy II)"; a second child which would serve the same purpose. Because the things in the opening paragraphs of job articles aren't about the job class and therefore shouldn't get to be on the page. The "job system" is a game mechanic, whereas the definition of each job are story elements.  ILHI ^{20:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)} Also because IV's Dark Knight isn't Cecil really, and I don't know about TAY's. Dark Knight in IV symbolises darkness. And you fight him with Cecil. So people probably wouldn't go to Cecil's article to find battle information like you would for Monk (who is sometimes called Yang). But mainly Leon.

What I don't like is having a disambig when things are actually the same thing. I've said this before. In fact, you were there. Some of the Ivalician summons, we have disambigs because the summon appeared as a character in FFT. But they're actually the same thing, so why should there be a disambig? I mean, there's no parent where you can right things that apply to both. The childs then split the article to focus on separate things and go more in-depth.

Sky Pirate. The recurring job class, and the Sky Pirates from XII are both still Sky Pirates. So why don't we have a proper Sky Pirate page?

A "Dragoon" page would have the opening paragraph saying the recurring features of a Dragoon. Then there could be a section for "As a job class". And then there could be an "Appearances" section. Some of them would be simple like II, IV, and IX. Although a VII section, where Cid's a dragoon, but he's the only dragoon in the entire game, won't work so well. Notice how on our articles, say Black Mage, we'll say their job class is "[[Black Mage (Job)|Black Mage]]"? Well, it links to the Black Mage job class page, which isn't the correct page to link to. Because Vivi has nothing to do with the job system.

Which then brings to mind summons. When I want to link to a summon page, what do I link to? I can't link to "List of Summons", because that's a list, and not a page to tell you about summons. I can't link to "Summon (Command)", because that's a page about the gameplay command. So unless a game has an article for their summons, I can't do anything. I remember suggesting we do it this way in "Talk:List of Summons". We didn't. Now there is no article to link to when you want to link to a page about summons.  ILHI ^{21:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)} No, you see: We have an article for the list of summons, and we have an article for the command to use these: But we don't have the thing that links these two things: summons themselves. I think we should have a "Summons" page which explains the role of summons in each game. And then we should create a summons page for every game with the lists on, laid out in a fancier way. Esper (Final Fantasy VI) looks rubbish, but something similar would make it far cooler.

Regarding "it's a different thing in Tactics to the other games" -- That's the annoying thing about Tactics. It's not actually an Ivalice game.  ILHI ^{22:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)} I swear the Ivalice in FFT was a different Ivalice. But apparently "This Ivalice is only connected to the other through Retcon".  ILHI ^{22:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)}

Reporting an Anony Edit

I apologise for pestering you at this time but it seems that this user is making some unsavoury edits in the Dragon's Neck Colosseum in the last few days and I'd like to ask you to perform the necessary action to prevent him or her from deforming this glorious wiki. There lies a point where one becomes rather nonplussed with this rapscallion's "contributions". Many thanks. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 00:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping an eye out, Jepp :) 8bit 01:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm so shame of myself Edit

sorry do not want to break the rules, but nonsense is sooo fun XD, im dont gona do any more... :s Azure Mage 22:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Epik Zidane Iz Epik Edit

I just popped by to lay this video SMACK...dab on your user page ;p And lawl at Kefka's intro. Yeah, one of them, but which one? Drake Clawfang 01:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL *gasp* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL............ *hack* Wow. At first I thought you meant the little scene before the battle. I was like, "Well, there isn't anything especially funny in there..." and then the fight started. And then Kefka totally gave props. Best fight intro line ever. The way he said it, too. XD SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you muchly Drake ^^ 8bit 02:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

You should see him in Terra's story, he is so fucking awesome, he spends all his time making fun of her and laughing at her. And he has his "I hate hate hate you!" line too. Awesomeness. Drake Clawfang 03:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Here. Kuja's dialogue is on-target, but his VA was....meh. After the feedback on the comments above tho, JD Cullen has vowed he'll learn from this and do a better job if they call him back to voice Kuja again.

Re:VII Enemies Edit

This is the forum. It seems that some people wanted VII to be added, while others only wanted X-2. It seemed that the verdict was VII shouldn't be added. Oh well, reverting the edits for the third time now. ^.^ ScatheMote 21:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Jecht Fayth Edit

TC Edit

I think me and Leon is about to start a edit war on Chapter 6. Sense your a Admin, I like you to protect the page, until you finish Chapter 5, ok.  NeoZEROX  00:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

What? Nah, You want to keep Chap6 on hold, fine by me. No need to protect it. I have a Gaiden to finish anyway (Who may/not feature Ridley as main...) Leon5550 00:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

WTF??? Edit

why you delet my image, what is wrong if it??? grrr i cant do anything in this wiki???Sindra The Fire Angel 18:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Which one? Because all but one of your images has been deleted, and that one is currently subject to deletion for lack of licensing. Your filenames need to have meaning, and you have to have to be not breaking the law when uploading files. And don't give me the "who asked you?" thing again. Believe me, I know these things.  ILHI 18:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy XIX... Edit

Outside Linkage Edit

*poke* Edit

How Much Longer Edit

Maybe I was thinking that the rooms are all on fire Edit

Will you help me? Edit

New Template Edit

8Bit, I found something on Bulbapedia I think we can use here at the Wiki. A wonderful little foot-note sort of coding that could be quite handy. Check this out. Run your cursor over the asterisk*. What do you think? Like I said, we could use something like this for footnotes or something. Or for text like "Exclusive to -version-", we could use this for that sort of thing. No? Drake Clawfang 03:06, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

So, what do you think? Drake Clawfang 03:41, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! And okay, no worries for that. I'm actually reworking a page I can use it for. Don't worry 8Bit, you shan't regret this. ;) Drake Clawfang 05:17, September 19, 2009 (UTC)