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Some minor information hath leapt into mine view! Zack's new moronic last name, is, yes! ZACK FAIR! Check this out. Guess it wasn't a vandal there then Diablo >:P --Auron Kaizer 22:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It was actually Goldberry who was getting pissed at the "vandal", I haven't touched this article (according to the history). I don't care about VII articles, unless they affect other games. Diablocon 22:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Was this revealed in Crisis Core? --Crazyswordsman 00:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Dang... well in that case I apologise openly for flaming the guy/gal that made the edit, HOWEVER, the rest of his/her edits were vandalism and/or BS in their entirity, so i was lulled into a false sense of no-security...--Goldberry2000 00:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it was revealed in CC. It is derived from "fair weather", and is supposed to contrast "Cloud Strife". --Hecko X 05:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Zack, Zax!?Edit

In FF7 Last Order, the animation movie, there are some scenes where you can see some folders in one of the shinra offices with some paper sheets, with pictures and text about Sephiroth, Cloud and Zack... when you push the Pause-button right in that moment and read what is standing on this papers... you can read some things like "the SOLDIER Zax has"blah blah, I forgot what was standing there BUT it seems the name "Zack" was written in a typo there as "Zax"... in the beginning I thought maybe, but just maybe, his name is really Zax and the name Zack was just a miss-translation in the english version of the game, because the japanese name of Zack is written like "Zakusu" as far as I remember and it is possible to translate it in both ways... like the japanese name of Sabin ...he was named "Mash" but it could also be "Matthew". --Haitani 12:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Screen for FFVII? Edit

Would anyone mind if I added a screen for the FFVII section of the article, or would that be too many images? --Oranejo 02:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

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Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6.
TALK - 03:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Add as many as you want :)

Whoever keeps changing the Zack Fair page to the biased poorly third-person stated story, stop it.

Just because someone wants to become 'famous' on a flashing screen doesn't mean they can tamper with a perspective-balanced description of Zack.

Editing Edit

NuRaLuLu - Boy Oh Boy...The Price Of Freedom Is Steep
TALK - TO ME! {{{time}}}

I think Zack's page should be checked again...the grammer is all weird and some of the info is repeated. The whole article looks like a draft. It's like i'm readin points rather than a story or history. AND it should contain info about Zack rather than a summary of the events that took place. Peace! =}

P.S I wish Zack was real =...{
This is the point I was trying to get accross.
BlueHighwind TA
BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more.:

I largely wrote the Story section last week. Grammar problems are probably my fault. You should fix them instead of whining. The storyline's purpose is to describe his role in the story. Perhaps you want to write a Personality section? Be my guest. Anyway, some idiots threw in some redundant out-of-date nonsense at the beginning (I'm going to find that guy). It had been removed, and this page is on my Watch-list to protect it from anything stupid like that again.

And all mainspace pages are written in the unbiased, third-person, literary present. Get used to it. This is not a love letter to Zack, just an article about him.
BlueHighwind TA
BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more.:
It was a team effort that destroyed my work. A massive collaboration of lots clueless people. We don't need to cover both Last Order and the ending of Crisis Core if they cover the same thing! Don't make a special section for it. And keep the tense the simple literary present.


NuRaLuLu - Boy Oh Boy...The Price Of Freedom Is Steep
TALK - TO ME! {{{time}}}

I know you weren't the only one who edited so i was sayin it to anyone who has the time to do it.

I can't correct the article cuz i have slight OCD me thinks =P I have this problem with editin other people's stuff...i have to do everythin from scratch by myself... when i write an article i keep goin back to it...and i always HAVE to find somethin wrong with it even if everybody thinks it's fine. So me can't dewi =P

If i sounded rude on my last message then i apologize.

P.S my last P.S was a joke!

WRONG, it IS still biased. At the top of my head, from reading your edit it is basically saying. "Zack is so cool OH NOES shinra killed him lolz!" Just becuase you made it 'longer' and just because you want to be 'famous' on a flashing screen which is ridiculous doesn't mean you can just screw up a good page. Gratz on ruining it.

BlueHighwind TA
BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more.:
I think we can safely ignore the last comment, which seems to make absolutely no sense what's so ever. If User:DrTheKay really had beneficial intentions for this page and just wasn't whining for the sake of whining, he or she would give a suggestion about how to make it better. And he or she would stop repeating sentences that didn't make sense in the first place.

Well if a team of morons destroyed your work then Zack is not being respected, I mean DAMN! A LOT A FRICKIN SHINRA TROOPS KILLED HIM AND NOW THEY'RE TRYIN' TO DISRESPECT HIS ARTICLE THEN WTF???? Seriosuly people, am I the only one hwo sees a conection here? And I only like crisis core and advent children, thats why I am not a member, I wouldn't help anythiong but ff7, and only 2 of those.

HeightEdit

Is there a source for placing Zack's height at 6'1'? Sephiroth is documented (in the FFVII manual) as being 6'1', and Zack is shorter than him. I had him placed at around 5'10. (62.136.99.14 17:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC))

You guys think Zack and Aerith more belonged together than Cloud and Aerith, right? Cause that's what I derived from Crisis Core. In fact, it's one of the few canon pairings I really like. I mean, they were so cute together!

Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - 17:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
If you play the game Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, and talk to one of the main desk girls at the right point, you learn that Zack is 6'3" and is a gemini. That's why I changed the page for him, putting in what the game says is his correct height.

that would also mean he is born in may/june. but how do we know the year? i dont recall seeing it anywhere. Oni Dark Link 21:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Forgot to sign my name... Edit

You guys think Zack and Aerith more belonged together than Cloud and Aerith, right? Cause that's what I derived from Crisis Core. In fact, it's one of the few canon pairings I really like. I mean, they were so cute together! Sweet Nightmare 19:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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Drake Clawfang - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages...
TALK - 19:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm a Cleris shipper myself, but you'll find there's likely a variety of people here who believe in various pairings, and probably many more who don't bother with such things.

Well, before I saw Zack I would have agreed with Clerith, cause I just don't like Tifa and that's really the only other choice unless I wanna go into yaoi. But now that I've seen Zack and Aerith together, I have to go with Zaerith. I mean, Zack gave her all the ideas for the stuff you see in the original game, like selling flowers, and her pink outfit, and her pink bow, and the idea of charging people one date. ((He decided to repay her with one date for 'saving his life' when he fell into her church and she woke him up. ^-^))


Puppy to WolfEdit

Greyrose
TALK - Greyrose 08:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
It was mentioned in the game that Zack was called us a "puppy" by Angeal during his younger years. During the course of Advent Children, a wolf is seen around were Cloud is/was which was also symbolizing Zack's spirit. You think, this "puppy" in Crisis Core is also the reference to the "full-grown wolf" in AC?


BlueHighwind TA
BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more.:
No.

Kaospyri 21:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)I do....

Doga
MadHatter1284 - <option>{{{1}}}</option>
TALK - MadHatter1284 19:19, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
Close, but no. Zack is just a very angry dog after seeing how Cloud fed the buster sword to the dirt in Advent Children.

Age of death.... Edit

Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - {{{time}}}
Ok, if he met Aerith when he was 18 and died 4 years later, how do we get the age 23?
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Deadlyslashsword - +It takes disaster to learn a lesson, but you're going to make it through the darkest nights+
TALK - 04:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC) - Some people betray and cause treason...we're gonna make everything alright.
He is sixteen at the beginning of Crisis Core. Crisis Core spans seven years. This puts him at 23 at the time of his death. What age he was when he met Aerith is up for debate.
Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - {{{time}}}
Alrighty. I just got the age 18 from a square enix article I read somewhere. That's what was confusing me. Thank you though.

Re: 86.16.140.165Edit

He's talking about people hacking the game files of FFVII for the PC. The things you can do are pretty neat. Although the need to mention it in trivia just for him is pretty needless. You can change the characters to others to; you can even completely change the models.  ILHI 20:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Date of Birth Edit

Or more like, year of birth. I thought that the age difference between Cloud and Zack was 2 years, and if Cloud was born in 1986, how do you get 1985 for Zack's year of birth? Also according to other dates and years mentioned in the article his year of birth should be 1984. I'm confused... (81.175.142.100 11:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC))

http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/107/complete-timeline-of-the-compilation-of-ffvii/ . --BlueHighwind 12:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
zack was born in late may or early june providing star signs are the same in the final fantasy universe as they are over here.

Reasons for Zack to die Edit

If Zack had to die (except for ff7 being made pre-crisis core) w2hat reasons are there?

1. CLoud wouldn't be a hero, he would live in Zack's shadow forever!

Reasons for this topic to die: pointless, speculatory, irrelevant, take your pick. Drake Clawfang 04:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Chain Slash Edit

doesnt the chain slash similar to Cross-Slash? because the slash is X and it is in the box without the cover in the above?

Zack's Picture Edit

How do you fix pictures? I keep looking at Zack's article and all I see for his picture in that big box thing at the top are words that say "Zack as he appears in Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII-". I mostly only fix grammatical and spelling errors so I'm not going to be of any help on this. --Mjka 17:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I see it too; with the red X in the top left corner. It's not a Wikia coding related issue, I think our browsers are just laggy. Check back later and see if it fixes itself. 8bit 17:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Zifa or Zerith? Edit

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FFfangirl - "Gullwings, let's go!"
TALK - 9:40 a.m., August 18, 2009
Although he's dead, who do you think Zack should end up with? There are a lot of signs showing Cloud ending up with Aerith, and that would leave Zack and Tifa. Personally I think that they look great together, and they've known each other since they met in Nibelheim. So any ideas?
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NeoBahamutZEROX - Magicite Every time a petal falls a young life is taken by lady Death hands... Magicite
TALK - No time given!
Maybe, but when it come crossover relationship I think he go with Celes. The side male protagonist of VII with so called female protagonist of VI. Perfect don't you think? :P
Aeris is better for Cloud. But now Aeris is dead, and Living x Dead is never a good combination. And Zack is dead, and Living x Dead is never a good combination, so: Tifa x Cloud, Aerith x Zack. Not that I care at all. I just want to see Tifa and Cloud finding other ways of getting kids that isn't adoption. If you know what I mean. :p  ILHI 14:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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NeoBahamutZEROX - Magicite Every time a petal falls a young life is taken by lady Death hands... Magicite
TALK - No time given!
You have point, no matter what we want Aerith and Zack are dead. So it impossible to see Cloud with Aerith because she dead. And I can see their child a Cloud ripoff like Ceodore name Zack or Squall.
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The Man In The Black Cape - Flectere si nequeo superos, Achaeronta movebo!
TALK - The Man In The Black Cape 22:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
How could you possibly justify Zifa anyway? Zack had fuck-all to do with Tifa.

Didn't the writer of FF7 imply that Could and Aerith were never in love?

Yes, Cloud's emotions for Aerith were borrowed from Zack because of the Jenova cells, Cloud possibly love Tifa and the Zack inside Cloud love Aerith

Circumstances of DeathEdit

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The Man In The Black Cape - Flectere si nequeo superos, Achaeronta movebo!
TALK - The Man In The Black Cape 22:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Not that this is particularly important, but I'll say it anyway. If I'm not mistaken, shortly after you escape from Nibelheim in CC you get a news text saying not only that Shin-Ra has deployed troops to hunt Zack (and Cloud) down, they've dispatched an entire battalion, which if memory serves is roughly 15,000. Overkill or what, even for a JENOVA-enhanced, 1st Class Soldier? And the impression is given that Zack dies having killed pretty much all of them, which, if my information is right, which it may not be, seems pretty unlikely to me. 15,000 - 1? Artillery, officers and all? With no mention of the event or those kinds of losses later on? Yeah right

a battalion could be as low as 300 men, which is a little more picture worthy of what they show in the ending. granted, that still seems unlikely though. on the other hand, the usual laws of physics have been out the window since AC, considering strength was an idea rarely touched upon in the game. yoshiyuki1711/28/10

Ultimania and In-gameEdit

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Gustav Margriff - Hell yeah! Final Fantasy the best game ever!
TALK - 23:23, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Hey people i have my PSP in my hands right now and i when you go to the entrance counter girl "the white one", she says Zack's personal data, like: he love to do squats, and all those shits and when she mention his height, she says that Zack is "6'3" and i am like "WTF!!!!". So the thing is if Sephiroth is 6'1 in the Ultimania. Do you guys have any assumptions... any? Also when you stand at the side of the peoples in the towns in Crisis Core they look very small at the side of Zack and that other fact makes my head spin, like "Well he could be at least 5'11 to 6'0 at least.

Most of the time Zack is mesaured agianst Sephiroth he seems small. But since he got the Buster Sword he's grown (look at the FMVS, He LOOKES TALLER) So since before the Nibelheim Incedent He's grown, DUH!!! No 3 Xaldin 21:35, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe it's just the hair, lol Officious 03:39, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Taking into account the hair is a good point. also, i believe(but could be wrong) that the policy is to accept whats in game as valid, and if other sources dont contradict, then they are citable. so by that logic 6'3" would be rightyoshiyuki17 11/28/10

A correction on Yosh: the Ultimanias are the final word; what they say is law, even if it controdicts every other source you have. They are the latest release, and are often filled with reworked production notes or character files. In other words, they take what they use to design the characters, and put it in a way we would understand it, and stick it in a book for all us. First hand information. Likeacupcake 08:34, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

ah, good to know. thank you. yoshiyuki17 11/30/10

FlashbackEdit

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Dazuro - Professor to Kitchen: The Joan Rivers Story
TALK - {{{time}}}
How do you access the flashback of Zack escaping with Cloud and getting shot at and all that crap? I've scanned through the articles for FF7, Cloud, Zack, and a few other related things and can't find jack about it. Not only am I quite curious, but that means we're missing information that I feel should be included, so pardon me putting it here rather than in the forum.
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Saethori (T / C) 19:17, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
Believe in the future, and persist in the present, that's what I'll do!
Go visit the laboratory in the basement of the Shinra Mansion and examine one of the canisters in the bottom-right of the screen. Note that you can only get the flashback after you get Cloud back from Mideel.

Lets see how well Birth By Sleep kills him... Edit

Doga
MadHatter1284 - <option>{{{1}}}</option>
TALK - MadHatter1284 19:25, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
Is anyone else really nervous about what square is going to do to Zack in KH: BBS? Because they already killed the rest of the cast's personalities and appearances.

Not really, I'm sure they'll do a good job. I think they did a good job in making him look younger. Because it's suppose to be like 10 years before KH1, so it makes sense to make him look younger. He looks good. The same with Cloud and the others, except Aerith, I hate her voice actor in KH2, that was a no. But the looks of the characters were okay. :)


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Personally, for me, He's kinda cute. If you ask me, ;)

--Black Rose1809 06:43, February 27, 2010 (UTC)Black_Rose1809

Question Edit

In either the American or Japanese version of Crisis Core, Zack says Irasshaimase. What does this mean. No 3 Xaldin 12:57, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


In Japanese, Irasshai(masen) means "Welcome!" Officious 03:38, February 24, 2010 (UTC)


Thats really like him if you think about it. No 3 Xaldin 22:31, February 24, 2010 (UTC)


The context of "irrashaimase" he uses here is the one that servers will use in restaurants to announce that the food is done. "Come and get it" is actually a pretty close translation, though some like to say, "Come get served" instead.

Portrait and Battle Render in FF7? Edit

"Strangely enough, Zack has a menu portrait in Final Fantasy VII, meaning he may have been meant to be playable in game, as he even had an in-game battle sprite." I'm not sure how long that's been there, but some Google searching is bringing up nada. Is there proof of this? Bluestarultor 23:49, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

He doesn't have a portrait, and he doesn't have a battle model. Or at least, if he does, it's not with the rest of the portraits and battle models respectively. 88.108.103.218 11:45, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Height Edit

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Drake Clawfang - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages...
TALK - 17:02, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/689/zack-fair-character-profile-p82-85/ says 185 cm, which approximates 72.834... inches, working out to approximately six feet tall. I know Ultimania trumps other sources, but since the guide gives the height in cm rather than Inches I'm wondering if we should list both...not sure why but meh.

correct actions thingy...? Edit

what does it mean - "If the player performs the correct actions in Crisis Core, Zack can get his own fanclub like many other 1st Class SOLDIERs. Known simply as the "Zack Fair Fanclub", the player's actions determine its popularity by the end of the game." what are the correct actions? 120.28.183.181 10:46, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

You have to find Cissnei while in Junon and she tells you about Zack's fan club. Then you talk to the receptionist in Shinra Building and she reveals that she is the founder and sets you up for the Zack Fan Club mailing list and you start getting email from your own fan club.Keltainentoukokuu 21:24, September 11, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

oh so thats why the receptionist likes zack so much... ^^ 112.198.140.118 04:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect info Edit

"He is the only Final Fantasy character (aside from Moogles) to appear in the game. "

Vastly incorrect. There are quite a few characters from FF to be in KH.

See a list here: http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Final_Fantasy_characters

You sir are an idiot. Doreiku Kuroofangu 03:04, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Instead of bashing the anons, why not give a reason as to why they are incorrect? This isn't the first time I've seen you trollan.

I call it as I see it kid. Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:25, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
Birth by Sleep is a game. Kingdom Hearts is a series. Out of that entire category listed there, only two characters are in Birth By Sleep: Moogles and Zack. Ergo, they are the only characters to appear in Birth by Sleep, ergo you sir are a moron. You twit. --BlueHighwind 04:27, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it should be edited to be more specific. Cool story bro

Who was taller? Edit

It says that Zack (6' 3) was a couple inches taller than Sephiroth (6' 1), but in all Nibelheim pictures, Sephiroth always looks taller than Zack.

Who was taller? Edit

It says that Zack (6' 3) was a couple inches taller than Sephiroth (6' 1), but in all Nibelheim pictures, Sephiroth always looks taller than Zack. 67.149.69.240 18:03, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

You answered your own question there: Zack is listed as being taller, which means the render team screwed up. Likeacupcake 18:15, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

High heels. ;)Keltainentoukokuu 20:53, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lol at "high heels" my first thought was Seph's wearing some kickin' boots. Platforms :D 67.149.69.240 18:30, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't Genesis wear high heels? --Sencilia 05:16, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I think he did wear some heels..... 68.62.84.131 22:53, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Game of origin Edit

The KH wiki says he was introduced in the English/International versions of FF7 only, while our wiki makes no mention of it. I presume they're just in the wrong over there, but I thought I'd ask just in case we were missing a fairly important factoid. Anyone know the truth about that? Dazuro 05:38, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Zack was always in the game, but I think the flashback where Zack is killed is in the International versions only. Zack is still seen in the photograph and briefly in the "true" Nibelheim flashbacks in Northern Crater and Cloud's Subconscious.Keltainentoukokuu 18:28, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

TFF:CC AppearanceEdit

In the newest issue of Famitsu, it is said that Zack originates from Before Crisis? source image I'm not sure how to interpret it.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 07:34, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

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