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Contents 1 Other appearences? 2 Story 3 Quote? 4 Youtube video 5 Limit Breaks in Advent Children? Not as many as everyone likes to think... 6 Age in Crisis Core. 7 wedding!!!???????? 8 Tifa's Height???? 9 Development Sections 10 AC Outfit 11 Personality

[edit] Other appearences?

I was just wondering why this page doesn't have an "other appearence" section, from when she was in Kingdom Hearts 2, there is one for almost all the other people that were in it. Please add below if you have any thoughts on this.--Paradox

Fixed. --Auron Kaizer 22:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, if it's not there, you're more than encouraged to put it there. I would if I played KH2. But I have no plans to. Crazyswordsman 23:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Story

Isn't the story part a bit too long, and includes too much that doesn't have Tifa in it? How about shaving it down a little bit? --Auron Kaizer 22:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

That seems to be the way with all of the main character pages in just about every game, there seems to be a page when a paragraph would suffice.--Goldberry2000 22:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, currently, it's more of a game summary (very... very long summary) about the parts that include Tifa, than an actual biography. --Hecko X 23:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Our defense for these long pages is this: We're not Wikipedia. --Crazyswordsman 00:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It's more about content (or at least, I think it is). It also needs a lot of rephrasing, as it is, no offence to whomever was kind enough to take the time to write it, linguistically redundant (drastical overuse of the same terms and phrases). It's like a step by step summary of the story's plot, rather than an actual biography about Tifa. --Hecko X 00:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

When i get a few spare hours I'll go through and "fix" all of the main character articles to the best of my ability. We're probably talking saturday or sunday.--Goldberry2000 00:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be mentioned that she is also in Advent Children? The whole "Story" section mentions her story from Final Fantasy VII, but it hardly even mentions her from Advent Children! --DragonTU84 19:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

That's how it's worked out with all of the character pages. I know I said I'd fix it before, but I'll revise my comment and once again claim it will be done... eventually.--Goldberry2000 22:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quote?

DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity." TALK - The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? Where is that quote from the top of her page from?

DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity." TALK - {{{time}}} The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? Still waiting for an answer for that quote question. And just because a few people here think she's a sex symbol, does not mean many people do.

Ser Blue says at 03:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC) That, and the others in FF7 char pages, is from NA Square FF7 website, back when Square was not Squenix. Here's the link. [1].

[edit] Youtube video

Not sure if this is the place, but the youtube video is a dead link. Jay59 15:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

ChiefKakashi Talk - Contribs - Random - {{{time}}} You can feel the waves coming on, let them destroy you or carry you on. You have to click on the video, not just the play button for it to work.

17:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC) —W/B And the youtube file has been deleted.

[edit] Limit Breaks in Advent Children? Not as many as everyone likes to think...

Tifa doesn't actually use any of her Limit Breaks besides Meteor Strike in Advent Children, which she clearly uses to toss Loz into a pew before dropping back next to Marlene, where Loz' phone then rings and he answers. She is actually using most of her combo attacks from Ehrgeiz, including the sliding kick and the backflip. Tifa's Somersault, Waterkick and all her other Limit Breaks can indeed be performed in Ehrgeiz as special grapple attacks, but look completely different again.

Beat Rush: Could be any series of punches, right?

Somersault: In the game she grapples the enemy, climbs up them and then kicks off. In Advent Children she actually does her backflip from Ehrgeiz, not her grappling Somersault.

Waterkick: That's a sweeping kick. The "Waterkick" in Advent Children resembles a baseball slide, another attack she can use in Ehrgeiz.

Meteodrive: A suplex. No sign of this in AC (not that I ever noticed anyway).

Dolphin Blow: Basically a Shoryuken (you all know what a Shoryuken is). She doesn't do one of these either.

Meteor Strike: Yup, she clearly chucks Loz into a pew with this.

Final Heaven: No sign of it.

Thought I'd clear that up, as a lot of people do like to desperately assert that certain elements of the game appeared in there that actually didn't. Who the hell said Ehrgeiz was bad for Tifa's career? ^__^

ReloadPsi 20:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

BlueHighwind Q? TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ: Yet another quack with some sort of insane single-issue that you obsess over and must tell the masses. Just where do you cockroaches come from? Anyway, since Tifa's moveset in Ehrgeiz is based upon her Limit Breaks, even if the development team was thinking of that game when they made Advent Children (which is highly doubtful), it is still just a copy of a copy. Still based originally in the Limit Breaks. And just because they look more similar does not mean they are based upon each other.

14:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC) —W/B *sigh* But which is more correct? A duplicate of Ehrgeiz's or similar to FF7's? If her moves are clearly like Ehrgeiz's then that is the correct. 'Course, I can't comment on what he said as I have only watched the movie once (which I though was lame, BTW) and didn't take into consideration what is FF7 and what is not.

First, there is only one strike that occures in the movie, Cloud's finisher. Even Meteor strike doesn't count 'cause it is just a throw and is not a Rage based attack. That is the definition of Limit(calculus,lol). As such, the fight is simply "corriograghy" because it is a movie not a game. AJ Werefang 00:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Age in Crisis Core.

I know it seems impossible but she's 13 in Crisis Core. In VII she is 20 and the accident happened 7 years ago which makes her 13. She does say something about the accident happening 7 years ago to Cloud.... I was just trying to figure this out when I saw the edit on her Cris Core age.

~Tifa~

Deadlyslashsword - +It takes disaster to learn a lesson, but you're going to make it through the darkest nights+ TALK - {{{time}}} - Am I too late...to be saved? Someone keeps changing it back to 13, which annoys the hell out of me. Here's my explaination of why she's 15 in Crisis Core: We all know Crisis Core takes place through seven years, from when Zack is 16 to when he is 23. Four of those years were spent in Niebelhiem, as experiments under Hojo. Those are the last four years of Crisis Core. Cloud was 16 during the Niebelheim Incident, immediately thereafter going into his four year sleep. In FF7, he is magically 21, which means there was one year between the end of Crisis Core and the beginning of FF7. In Crisis Core, you first meet Tifa right before the Niebelheim Incident. We now know that the time between the Niebleheim Incident and the beginning of FF7 is five years. Tifa is 20 in FF7, so do the math. 20 - 5 = 15.

Actually, she is 16. 4 years pass while Zack and Cloud are prisoners. Yet only just after escaping(maybe a few weeks) they get to Midgar. Zack dies and Cloud finds Tifa, wherein FFVII begins. (to be honest, I think this is BS but I just wanted to point out some time inconsistancies) AJ Werefang 23:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

If this were true, Cloud would have been 17 in Crisis Core, which he isn't. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 00:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Crisis Core begins in November 2001. Tifa was born in 1987. Math it, and you get that (2001 - 1987 = 14). By the time of Nibelheim Incident (October 2002), she is 15. FFVII takes place in late 2007, 2008. Five years after the Incident, making her 20. It all fits. --BlueHighwind ツ 12:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Glad to have the Ultimania on your side, Blue? - +DeadlySlashSword+ 14:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] wedding!!!????????

In advent children when she's giving Cloud the whole Self-Help Speech If you pause the shot of her hand on the bed you can see a ring on the ring finger of her right hand, Now I'm not a shipping fanatic but...

It's not a wedding ring. Wedding rings are worn on the left hand, Tifa wears her on the right. The ring is modeled after Cloud's emblem, the Cloudy Wolf. Denzel has a ring like it as well, I believe he wears his around his neck. Drake Clawfang 04:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Goddamm you, I could already feel the damm shipping taint while reading therough this article, I tried to push it out of my mind, and then something like that has to be in the discussion section

This is a Talk Page, so we don't really have control over who says what here. For example, I may not want surely complainers here, but what can I do? The fact that this proposal has been ignored and refuted should show how little we care for "shipping" in our articles. --BlueHighwind ツ 17:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tifa's Height????

*Cloud Strife - "Even if the morrow is barren of promises, nothing shall forestall my return." And...*SUPERFLYINGTACKLEPOUNCE* TALK - Steve Burton better be Cloud in Dissidia, and......*SUPERFLYINGTACKELPOUNCE* 23:39, 12 March 2009 (UTC) Tifa~ Advent Children Are you sure she is 5'4"? she looked awfully tall in advent children.....more like 5'7" or 8. Also: Sorry about the fandub thing. I just didnt want to place a 9-minute vid that was part of the entire movie.

Chocolancer - The best of both worlds.: TALK - 23:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)///Rants///Anime///Magic System Theory///CL-528 You'll have to ask ILHI for that...he based off all the character's height from the European manual of Final Fantasy VII so...

Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim. TALK - 23:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC) The same heights are also given in the Ultimania guide.

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 12:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC) In my European manual it gives you all their heights in metric. I've been wanting to know if the American one gives you the Imperial heights, since every annon wants to edit their heights for some unknown reason. >:(

19:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC) —W/B Uh huh: all of their metric heights are now fine (but then I don't check every edit; so they may have already been messed with :D) -- And I wondered why their heights commonly in imperial measurements: so I assumed they were imperial in the US manual.

Ultimania actually lists her height as 167, not 160 (which would be 5'6"). You can see it on page 22 of the thing. I wouldn't use the manuals over that.--69.43.223.79 05:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Bluetash TALK - {{{time}}} According to the most recent official source, http://na.square-enix.com/ff7psn/ , Tifa's height is 5'4", not 5'6". Should we update the article?

Hmm, I suppose we should... I mean even this is FF7 PSN by Square Enix. But then there's Ultimania. I guess I should watch Advent Children again... because remember guys if Tifa is really 5'6... then she'd be really close to Cloud's height.Jijjin 18:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

There's no equivalent in Japanese. The US site uses 5'5", which is what you get if you round down rather than to the nearest inch after convertering 167cm to inches. Is there anything corroborating 5'4" anywhere else, preferably in Japanese?--69.43.218.206 06:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Gustav Margriff - Hell yeah! Final Fantasy the best game ever! TALK - {{{time}}} She is that tall, if you compare her to the side of Cloud you will say that she is that tall, for me Cloud is a dwarf, he is pretty short, Sephiroth has an average tallness. 6'1 i am 6'2 and i don't see them that much a difference between somebody 5'5 and someone 5'8.

[edit] Development Sections

BlueHighwind Q? 16:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC) TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ: It seems to me that it would make more sense to put these after the storyline ones, since they deal primarily in changes in the narrative. A person reading this from scratch won't really appreciate those changes unless they've seen the original form, which would be in the storyline section.

Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim. TALK - 16:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC) I took another look at the style guide. Order of sections goes - story, equipment and stats, abilities (Limit Breaks for FF7), development, music, other appearances. So ya, the development sections are meant to come after the story.

BlueHighwind Q? BlueHighwind ツ 16:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC) TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ: Not to mention that many of them can be rather spoiler-ish. Take Jenova#Development for example.

[edit] AC Outfit

Serpensortia TALK - 00:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC) How would you describe her outfit in Advent Children? Currently, it says, "She wears a skirt with a black ribbon on each short leg instead of a regular skirt," which makes no sense at all to me. Is there a better way to describe it? And I was under the impression that she had shorts and a leg-cape thing, not a skirt.

BlueHighwind Q? 01:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC) TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ: I was under the impression that I replaced it with the perfectly descriptive word "skort". Did somebody revert me?

While i was making a cosplay outfit of her AC outfit, i called them "pannels." But, I guess the back-lower one would be "pleated-pannel?" (heh, sounds like a tough-twister...) Really, I don't know, but hey; I'm just giving my crazy thought. ~Leo

[edit] Personality

TenzaZangetsu 11,532 October 31 2009 (UTC)  -   "It is because of your heart that you will die.": The Personality says that Tifa is very shy but I never saw her that way, yes, she doesn't tell his feelings to Cloud but beyond that, she's not shy.