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---Tidus' hood????---- 

   Even though a hood is show on Tidus final fantasy X outfit he is never seen wearing it.............right???

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[edit] Kimi?

Quote from the article (under "Final Fantasy X-2"): "In the original Japanese language, Yuna refers to him with the friendly terminology for 'you', kimi." Now, I admit that what little Japanese I know is absolutely nothing to brag about (and I haven't played the Japanese version of the game), but isn't "kimi" a guy-word? Meaning, that it's a word only men use when refering to their male subordinates. Isn't it more realistic that she would say something along the lines of "anata", which also means "you", but endearing, and is something a woman would say to her boyfriend/husband (like saying "Dear" or "Honey"). So, has anyone played the Japanese version and know for sure what she says?

  • Hecko X 01:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
"Kimi" and "boku" are also used by girls, in an informal situation, usually used to address close boys friend (that's what my oba-san said, if I recall correctly...). The one that used only by boys are "omae" and "ore" ^^ - SilverSummonerTaLk 02:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tidus NOT a Time Mage

Yes, I realize he learns Haste/Slow/Hastega/Slowga, but that's under White Magic. His main Job Class is Warrior, but he doesn't have a second. Remember, everyone can learn the whole Sphere Grid if it's unlocked properly.
--LuvLuv G2000 02:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

It's "Fighter," not "Warrior." All sites, including the reliable FF Compendium refer to it as a Fighter. Also, his skillset mimics that of a Time/Space Mage. I don't care what the game says, we're going by logic that traces back to any game which uses the Job System: I, III, V, XI, X-2, T, and TA.
--Crazyswordsman 05:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Like already stated, it's generally accepted that they have a default starting point and area on the grid denoting their class, bordered by locks. And in every game where the class Time Mage have existed, the spells you mention have been "reserved" their skillset, while wherever they haven't appeared, they have been jumping back and forth between mage jobs. Thus it would lead to the conclusion that if e.g. haste is reserved primarily a Time Mage, and that Tidus can learn it by default that he is at least partially time mage.
--Hecko X 05:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
It's not just his spells. His abilities, "Delay Attack," "Delay Buster," and "Quick hit" are all similar to what a Time Mage would do. His Flee, in addition, is a Thief skill. So yeah, he's not strictly a Fighter, especially if you don't take him out of his section (Wakka and Auron outshine him by far as far as Fighter skills go).
--Crazyswordsman 05:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
You're right, in a way. However, I disagree about that Compendium being correct, because mainly I talked to Cidolfas and he acted like an arrogant snob. I say there's a better site out there that can make the Compendium prove my point in being incorrect (haven't found it yet, but gimme time). Not to mention, I don't think a normal Time Mage would have "Quick Hit", "Delay Attack" or even "Delay Buster". Final Fantasy 11's or 12's version of Time Mage? Now that would make better sense, and be more believing. Remember guys, Everyone can learn those abilities on the Sphere Grid, it just takes time, whether it's been generally accepted or not. Starting points only matter to where the game's makers placed them. Think if the character's were placed in different spots, but were still the same.
--LuvLuv G2000 23:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
If Auron and Lulu traded places, it would simply mean that Auron would have been a Black Mage (prim)/Samurai (sec) and that Lulu would have been a Knight (and most likely have gotten another Overdrive, since her current one is Black Magic dependant). Again, the starting points denote the path intended for the player to take. Yes, they are able to break away from their intended path, but that doesn't really change the fact the they have a default path with the stat growth and abilities most suitable for them. This path shows who they "truly are", and that is the note that we make in the character template. In reality, FFX has not job system, and Final Fantasy terms like "Time Mage" or "Dragoon" are non-existant in the FFX universe.
--Hecko X 00:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh of course. I never failed to realize this. :D It's how you base their growth by using their starting points. It's key to their growth. You guys and X's book explains why Tidus starts off using stats like +1's, then later +3's and +4's. (I know it seems like I'm beating around the bush, but I don't wanna do this in a rediculous arguementive way, since that would be childish of me). But yeah, it does fit, and you have cleared me up on this. I still say I'd only use that Compendium for pictures though.
--LuvLuv G2000 00:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Hero Reference: Tidus's profile in the Kingdom Hearts Strategy Guide and North American FFX Manual

The Danish FFX manual calls him "protagonist". Manuals and guides are not good "sources", as they can change based on the translator or chain of thought of whoever wrote it. This is again one of the good reasons why "protagonist" is used as it "covers all bases". --Hecko X 20:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tidus could technically be a 1000 years old

because dream zanarkand was created right after the destruction of the real zanarkand

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks
TALK - 17:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Except for the fact that in Dream Zanarkand, time flowed normally alongside Spira, so even though it was created 1000 years ago, people aged and procreated normally. This is evident by the fact Jecht dissappeared a decade ago, and Tidus was still a small child. Fastforward to the present, and Tidus has aged, and only a decade or so has passed in both real Spira and dream Zanarkand!
Goldberry2000 - That was a rhetorical question, and the answer was my fist
TALK - Sandbox 18:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
*EDIT CONFLICT* Sorry, that's crap. Tidus is a dream of the Aeons, and as a dream HE IS SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD. Don't start with this "could be" stuff; he is stated to be seventeen, never one hundred, never a million, and never any other random number you plan to come up with. Sorry, the facts stand.
Goldberry2000 - That was a rhetorical question, and the answer was my fist
TALK - Sandbox 18:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
By the way Diablo, that was aimed at mr. IP, not you.

yes but maybe Jecht and Auron left Dream Zanarkand 500 years ago, but didn't meet up with Braska and Yuna until 10 years ago. . But in Dream Zanarkand it might only have seemed like only 10 years altogether. It's all up to the imagination of the player.

Unless the game says otherwise, assume that time flows normally, Stop pissing about with the wiki and do something constructive, try attacking your keyboard with an axe StijnX 20:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
proof is required to ensure time flows concurrently in both Dream Zanarkand and Spira
Proof is needed that it doesn't StijnX 20:34, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
proof is needed for both, although it is up to the player to make up his/her own mind
You can assume the sensible one. Stop making stupid suggestions, and there is also the 10 year correlation StijnX 20:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
which is?
That any places on one planet, time will run concurrently as they are moving at the same speeds, give or take a miniscule number which would not make any difference whatsoever. Read up on your Einstein StijnX 20:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
yes but dream Zanarkand is another dimension
Where does it say that? I think that you're in another dimension, leave this discussion alone for your own benefit StijnX 20:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear Anon, don't make a new heading for every sentence you type. It's annoying and it takes up space. Regardless of the fact that I find your argument utterly ridiculous, I'm just asking that you code things correctly. And sign your posts! Mymindislost 20:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protect

StijnX - Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious - Oscar Wilde
TALK - This is how you remind me of what I really am (This should be put to some part of FFX lol)
Could we protect this page from anons?
Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping...
TALK - 21:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I know we've had some problems with anons today, but I don't know that it's necessary to protect the page.
Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6.
TALK - 21:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
It's one guy. A simple ban would do the trick.

[edit] Argument, continued

tidus's Zanarkand is not on the map

Because no-one has been to it, It was created in the middle of the sea by Yu Yevon to keep the dream of Zanarkand alive. Ergo, same dimension StijnX 20:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Al Bhed scavengers are roaming the seas all the time, and they didn't come across Dream Zanarkand.
Maybe it was further out, better defended or they don't roam that part of the sea StijnX 21:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
or it could be like Tes IV: Olivion, and needed to go into a gate (which was out at sea), and when you cross that gate you are in another dimension sorry, Oblivion
Just... Shut... Up... You are a moron. That is utter bull. I'm actually reeling from your idiocy. Just... no.--Goldberry2000 21:49, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
perhaps the game creators should be consulted
Perhaps they should; nobody else will for something like this, but sure, feel free to do so. If you want to use that as proof you'll need to get them to post it on SquareEnix's website or comment on it in a press release because coming here and saying "I got a reply, it says I'm right" won't mean anything to anyone, unless you replace "right" with "wrong", then we'll all care. Biased? Yes. With reason? Hell yeah.--Goldberry2000 22:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
And for the record, SIGN YOUR FUGGING POSTS!--Goldberry2000 22:42, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6.
TALK - 23:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
You should probably create an account. And the game creators won't give you the time of day.
SmegHead - Just kickin' back...
TALK - 16:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
What is this obsession with Tidus' age? first it was 20, then 1000, now it's 14??? Who really gives a rats left testicle how old he is?
Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks
TALK - 16:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
You won't be getting an answer out of him for 3 days, but I believe his edits were just to annoy. Honestly, if someone doesn't know a character's age, they just leave it alone.

[edit] Table colours

SmegHead - Just kickin' back...
TALK - 12:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I did the colours like that so they were the same as each characters colour on the Sphere Grid. But change it if you like...
Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks
TALK - 12:40, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I know, I just got to looking at Rikku's. My mistake, i'll roll it back.

[edit] Recent Vandolism (message to CSM)

LaZodiac - Doink!
TALK -
I am so very sorry for not noticing that last bit of vandolism. If I knew that it was supposed to look like that, I would of changed it so that it was. I hope I did help though.

[edit] Two Story Sections?

BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
Notice that the Story section is normal, but the Design section just goes on to recap the story again? What should be done?
BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
Nevermind. Some unknowing User made a mistake. Its all fixed now.

[edit] Why is he unpopular?

I maybe just left in the dark, but why is tidus so unpopular, I don't care if yall don't I just wanna know why? Clarkmaster

Tidus is my fav character. --Zack fair 007 14:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, he's mine too. But if some one can point out his flaws, I can probly weigh them out with good qualities, aslo can somebody piont me to a fan site for him?Clarkmaster
Squeaky, annoying, voice. ScatheMote
Ok his voice sounds younger than he is, but he aint such a bad character for that,he could be vioce over by an older vioce would that make ya happy?(grant it , I can't change it)Clarkmaster
Not a favorite but certainly don't dislike him. Voice is a little annoying but I think that was the purpose of him in the beginning. Being an annoying kid and growing as his journey goes on. - AndresTiger
Yeah, and his voice gets deep whenever he's thinking, he's either using that vioce as a cover up for his feelings or its just a sound effect Clarknmaster
To show a difference from when he is talking to the voice in his head. Tidus ain't that bad of a character. Worst character of FFX has to be Wakka.  I Lion Heart I 21:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
That isn't Tidus thinking, it's him after the events retelling the story remember. Which is why he sounds a little more mature there. - AndresTiger

Tidus is like the second best FF character i have seen so farSquall Leonhart11SquallLeonhart11

So his reteling vioce is his current voice? I also agree with Lion Heart, Wakka's weapon is friggin ball. Come on, I can do more damage to Sin with Yuna's stick than a ball!Clarkmaster
Yojimbo and Diagoro - "you smell like a polo haha do you have a hole....oooohh"
TALK -
have you ever noticed how when tidus is talking he always over gesticulates
Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people
TALK - 18:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
...And since when is that a problem?
Yojimbo and Diagoro - "you smell like a polo haha do you have a hole....oooohh"
TALK -
its not i just thought id mention it, it is a bit annoying though

I over gestilates all the time, sometimes its good to think the worst or the best. I think it kinda hits the nail on the head of what normal(or just me) teens think, the best or the worst. CLARKMASTER! 07:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the fact that he's more-or-less Naruto with a sword really doesn't win him much popularity. - Lost Hero

[edit] Found something

I'm replaying my FF X file and Tidus and Auron said a quote that you guys don't have, I was wondering if I could just add it, but I'd rather say something first.

the quote was: "Pace yourself Auron" (Tidus) "Hmph, worry about yourself" (Auron)

Same thing with Wakka and Tidus just now: "I can knock them out with my fast ball" (Wakka) "I can top that!" (Tidus) User:Leiber_Mage

I didn't include Battle Quotes that were just one-time deals, like the stuff you hear when party members first join, and all that jazz. Then again, I'm certain I missed several, you can never be sure about these things. --BlueHighwind ツ 13:23, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Check this one out:

Tidus enters, with Yuna present

Tidus: "You don't need to think!" I was laughing so hard I think I choked. - Lost Hero 10-7-09, 9:17 AM

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