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This talk page is used for discussing improvements to the page "Onion Knight (Final Fantasy III)/Dissidia". It is not the place for general discussion or sharing stories about the topic of this article.

EX Mode[]

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Edit to the Page[]

Under the Ex Mode section that talked about his Ex Burst, it said that for Onion Knight's Great Magic that either Holy or Flare could be selected to obtain a perfect Ex Burst. This is false, as Flare doesn't exist in the Magic Menu, and provided you can read Katakana, you can take a look at any Onion Knight video and see that it doesn't appear. The page was edited, removing the mention of Flare from that section. --Shad Croly 02:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It was a mistake mine back then, i confirmed several times after that, Flare is not usable in EX-Mode. CookiePinguy 13:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, remove it then. - Henryacores^ 13:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I removed it long ago, this time wans't me, i just explaining why did apeared flare back ago and to avoid future confusion. But i don't mind correcting it again. CookiePinguy 15:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Shad already corrected it CookiePinguy 15:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Name[]

I noticed this about OK in Dissidia, but am not sure how to phrase it properly to be added. To explain it, he's the only character whose "title" name is his actual name. To explain, Onion Knight is called "Onion Knight" (in English), not called whatever the Japanese translation for that would be. By comparison, "Cloud of Darkness" isn't called "Cloud of Darkness", she's called "Kurayami no Kumo". The same goes for the Emperor and Warrior of Light. The Onion Knight is unique from them in this aspect.

Am I explaining this clearly? You see what I mean I hope, I want to add it to the article but really need to phrase it better than that mini-essay above.

Hardly could understand the question, but if you're asking his name it's Onion Knighto or something like that? It's in the opening sequence of his Destiny Oddessy.--'LloydIrving 05:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Clearly I was misunderstood because I wasn't asking a question about his name, I was making a statement about it and asking how to phrase it. Read the post. Drake Clawfang 05:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll just shut my mouth again.--'LloydIrving 05:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Anyone else? Drake Clawfang 05:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

HP attack[]

I played the dissidia e3 trailer frame by frame and they change the Sword Dance attack to "Blade Torrent". For Proof, play it also in frame by frame, or just press pause button consecutively. I'm going to change it right now. DB36


I just got my OK to get flare. I tried to use it and... Woohoo. Nothing.

You may have just tried to do it wrong. Equip Flare, then when Thunder hits, press Square. Doreiku Kuroofangu 23:05, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Haley Joel Osmond?[]

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Yes, it is a guess, the same as every other VA thus far, except with this one it's clearly not him. I hate people who can't just wait for the announcement and have to spread false speculation like this. Drake Clawfang 23:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Would it be possible if the Onion Knight is voiced by a female voice actor? I mean look at Mona Marshall. She has voiced little boys in a few video games such as .hack (as Kite) and Drakengard (as Seere).--Cluna 06 23:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Well upon listening to OK again i can definatly see why people think its Haley Joel but unless their pulling some serious technological strings to de-age his voice it aint him. Though its tough to tell if its a yong guy or a very talented woman, though it woulndt be the first time ive heard of a grown man doing a boys voice. In other words I havent the slightest idea who it could be FinalFighterA+ 01:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

End to Debate?[]

"The character of the Onion Knight is based on the NES version; his summary on the Japanese Dissidia website mentions that he is one of four orphans from the village of Ur."

Someone wanna confirm without a doubt? 67.214.28.75 21:03, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Says so right in the museum. Doreiku Kuroofangu 21:10, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
Oh? I don't have a PSP, so I didn't know... I remember there was some debate while the Japanese version is out which FFIII was the canon one, but I guess it's old news now. 67.214.28.75 22:37, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Trouble uploading the exmode models, can I get a hand?[]

Right, I'm trying to upload images of the new costume but for some reason when I try to upload these two images, they just come up broken They work find on Majhost so I'm baffled, can someone else care to try their hand at it?

Ninja: http://www.majhost.com/gallery/DannyTheHedgehog/Shiz/onion_knight_3rd_costume_ex1.png

Sage: http://www.majhost.com/gallery/DannyTheHedgehog/Shiz/onion_knight_3rd_costume_ex2.png

Thanks in advance Dark Paladin Danny 15:25, January 20, 2011 (UTC)


Dude I already told you, the models are in the Page already. Pay attention! yeah_93 15:26, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry, my bad, I kinda got carried away and forgot to look, but, is it okay if I continue to upload the models of the new costumes not yet on the pages? Dark Paladin Danny 15:31, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you check first that the page already has the modes in it. I would suggest that you wait till the official screenshots for the model, but I think it's ok right now. Ask a mod first. yeah_93 15:35, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
I think I'll leave it then, though if any Mods check here, I have most the models and the model viewer, so if you need any images of them such as Exmodes, give me a message on my talk page Dark Paladin Danny 15:38, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
Upload them, but please remember to categorize them. Also, they're of poor quality, so if you want to wait I can upload better versions when I come home in a few hours. DoreikuKuroofangu - Visit the Soul Shrine! 15:41, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
No worries then, I'll wait, I'd rather not cause any extra hassle Drake Dark Paladin Danny 15:43, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
No problem, it's no hassle. New images are always encouraged, if you want to continue uploading them in png feel free, I can upload new vers of them later, would save me a bit of work. Up to you though. DoreikuKuroofangu - Visit the Soul Shrine! 15:52, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ingus?[]

Does it seem to anyone else that the Onion Knight is representing Ingus from the DS remake of FFIII? I've not played the said game, so I don't know for sure, but I was looking up the characters: Ingus is described as noble and chivalrous (OK goes out of his way to protect Terra at every stop), at times shows affection for Princess Sara (Cecil mistakes OK's chivalry for a crush in 012), and likes to stop and inspect a situation before jumping in (OK says something similar during his storyline - to check enemies' data before starting a battle; as well as his assertion early on to not go into a battle he knows he cannot win). He is described as being a typical knight, the way that the Onion Knight often acts and is treated by others such as the Warrior of Light. Ingus is the only one of the warriors with blonde hair - OK's default appearance - and in the opening FMV is a Red Mage who traditionally wear red, wield a sword, and use both white and black magic - traits all shared by Dissidia's Onion Knight.

Just something I noticed. Lord Knight Xiron 17:55, April 14, 2011 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron

  • This was mentioned before; no, he's not Ingus. His Alt Costume resembles Luneth, but he's actually more canonically from the original III. He's just a nameless Onion Knight from the original, rather than a specific one from the remake. In fact, when developing the character, he was based on the Nameless Warrior from the game's Logo (because Nomura's sketches looked so cartoony trying to remake his NES Sprite) until Amano drew a similarly cartoony Knight and it was decided that that was the look they would go for. (Most of that is based on other things I've read on this and other pages regarding OK and DFF, so I may be wrong, but if I am, so're those guys. xP)

Shai -- "Sipping Arizona Iced Tea, reading a Wikia..." 07:27, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

It's not Ingus. His hair and eye colour do not match, unlike Luneth's alternate. You can relate this DLC alt to Cecil's. It's based on the super deformed art. - Henryacores^ 22:38, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Luneth's alt is called Luneth. This alt is called Deformed Style. Unless they're trying to say Ingus is a deformed character, that alone shows that while it's influenced by Ingus, it's obviously not meant to be an appearance of Ingus himself. Dazuro 22:48, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Gabranth's Basch outfit is called "Captain's Gear". Exdeath's Neo Exdeath outfit is "Ebony Robe". Anyway, it'll be settled in a week or two when the new alts are added to the website, they'll probably mention Ingus there, or not. Doreiku Kuroofangu 00:15, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Gabranth's outfit is Gabranth disguised as Basch by wearing "captain's gear," not Basch himself. Neo Exdeath is still Exdeath. Either way, that doesn't address the issue of Ingus not being deformed. That hardly describes Ingus at all, for it to be the name of an outfit. And again, Luneth gets namedropped. Ingus would too, since they'd be the same kind of costume for the same character. Dazuro 04:30, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Onion Knight/Dissidia?[]

Just throwing this out there, but shouldn't it be "Onion Knight/Dissidia"? I mean, no other Onion Knights appear in Dissidia, right? I can see the point of having the name what it is now (Onion Knight (Final Fantasy III)/Dissidia) but I still think it should be shortened. BlitzballArtTidus357 05:12, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

No. The Onion Knight represents FF3, he's based on the FF3 Onion Knight, he's a subpage of the FF3 Onion Knight page, same as the Warrior of Light. Doreiku Kuroofangu 08:09, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ok then. :) Why is it /Dissidia, instead of (dissidia)? BlitzballArtTidus357 08:15, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Because it's a spin-off, the characters are still the same characters, just in a different game. Tags should be used for different entities across different games (Gilgamesh being an exception due to his unique nature). Cloud for example, if he was to get a page solely for his Tactics appearance, it would be a subpage, not a tag. But if a character called "Cloud Strife" appeared in another game but was clearly not the same person, it would get a tag. Doreiku Kuroofangu 08:21, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Sorry, I'm still learning the inner workings of the wiki. So, in summarisation, it's because he's technically the same person. BlitzballArtTidus357 08:28, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Pretty much. Also because all of Gilgy's alternate pages are for him in battle, not as a storyline character, so they'd use tags anyway. Enemy pages always use tags, why we have Seymour (Final Fantasy X boss) and Sephiroth (Crisis Core boss). Back when we had boss pages for the Dissidia characters, they were tagged like "Sephiroth (Dissidia Boss)". Doreiku Kuroofangu 08:47, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
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