Talk:One-Winged Angel

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Contents 1 Why suddenly 2 Translation 3 Number Of Versions 4 Dissidia 5 ACC long version 6 ACC long version

[edit] Why suddenly

Why suddenly did the page switch from youtube links of the full songs to just samples?

Wiki policy is to use sound samples over youtube videos when possible. It removes reliance on a third-party site and lessens the potential copyright infringements by not offering the full song. Drake Clawfang 15:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

I'm not sure if the translation shown for Advent: One-Winged Angel is "official" but I can tell you something: It's not right. At all. Or perhaps it may relate just a liiiiitle bit with what it actually says in Latin but, semantically speaking, this thing couldn't be farther away from the actual meaning. This is the thread I began at the WordReference forums some time ago to discuss the translation issues. You'll see that, for example, the consensus was that the last verses are actually translated as:

He, who invited death

[was] born with an ill-fated punishment

Don't call [his] name

That [Man] will come again

Should we leave it as it is or should we change it? Faethin 01:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants 09:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC) They're official, as I recall, from the pamphlet/cover thingy you get with the OST. And while abstract, they basically say the same thing (with the exception of the first verse)

Yeah, but, precisely: They are NOT the same thing, they just seem to convey the same idea. Shouldn't we, at least, include some kind of clarification about the subject? Faethin 01:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The other translation is just... More powerful, I suppose is the best way to say it. We should add something.

Right, I'll do it, I can translate the whole thing, but this kind of editing would qualify as Original Research. How can I help that? Faethin 00:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Fan-translated lyrics are not something I think should be on a Wiki, but maybe put it on some site and put an external link to it?--Auron Kaizer 00:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Would the WordReference language forums do? Faethin 00:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK - 01:22, 30 June 2007 (UTC) When I edited this page so that it looks more or less like it does now, at least in terms of format, I was using what I understood to be the SE translation. As far as what to do (Fan vs. Official), you really have to ask yourself if Nobuo was writting originally in Latin or if he translated into latin an idea. If the prior is true, then the translation of SE is no more weighty than anyone else's translation; however, in the much more likely scenario, I think you will find that Nobuo probably wrote in Japanese, translated the ideas as closely as possible in pseudo-latin and then the translation passed to us has more to do with his Japanese-English translation than a Latin-English translation. Amendment: I would say keep the official translation and make a note of the literal translation dispute beneath it.

Amen to that. May I, or would you prefer to do it yourself? Faethin 01:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK - 17:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Its all yours.

FëasindeTalk "In this spheric universe, love is inverse." {{{time}}} Done!

[edit] Number Of Versions

I know I really don't have a good reputation here, but there's an important piece of information I think I need to place here for you guys. On my PSP I have not just the six versions listed on the page, but a grand total of eleven versions of one winged angel (only one of which as far as I suspect is a fan made version).

I'd be more than willing to provide the mp3s to back up my claim (and provide where they came from) and help with the wikim or be corrected as to how many are fan or official. ~ Gullwing_Vegeta

What is the correct name for the version used in Crisis Core? On the wiki its The World's Enemy, but I've also seen it somewhere called Enemy of the World, and on my iPod its called Vengeance on the World. I know its not that much of a difference really, but still...

The Man In The Black Cape 15:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC) - Neither Cloud nor Squall shall hinder us me

"The world's enemy" I typed it in on google video's and got the CC version. 1stclasswarrior 18:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

"The Enemy of the World is Created" is the title that appears on SquareSound's catalog. I don't have the time to change it right now. Faethin^{verba volant}

So... what should it be? 1stclasswarrior 18:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

[there is a long, awkward silence]

well? 1stclasswarrior 19:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't look at me, I posed the question in the first place.

The Man In The Black Cape 21:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC) - Neither Cloud nor Squall shall hinder us me

[edit] Dissidia

Why not have a video if we do not have a sample? 1stclasswarrior 18:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

We don't need a sample, the Dissidia version doesn't really differ enough from the samples already on the page to warrant its own sample. We have three different samples of three different versions, all for one single song. That's plenty, we don't need a fourth. Besides, it was agreed to avoid using videos for music articles when possible, and that was the improper coding for adding video anyway. Drake Clawfang 18:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually Drake, if we really wanted to be the most complete wiki possible, we would have tracks for all the different versions of every song. But who is willing to put in that kind of effort? --BlueHighwind ツ 19:08, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I used the new "insert video's" thing at the top. I know about the samples, but we do not have any samples. Tht is why I added it in the first place. 1stclasswarrior 18:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Re-read my message, please. 18:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

oops, sorry, While we are on the subject, what is the correct video coding? 1stclasswarrior 19:02, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

<youtube> tags. Drake Clawfang

Speaking of Dissidia, we need to add in info for the weapon named after the song too I think...though I'll probably get to that when I get to it (same with Dancing Mad). Drake Clawfang

[edit] ACC long version

The Final Fantasy Advent Children Complete Mini Album is out, and there is this Advent: One-Winged Angel - ACC Long Version, which is some what different than the previous one. it has more precussion, an extended part for which Sephiroth flung Cloud into air and perform octaslash (more like octastab to me). a total of 6min 55 sec.

[edit] ACC long version

In the recently available Final Fantasy VII advent children complete: mini album, i found a this Advent: One-winged Angel - ACC Long Version. Comparing to the previous version, it has: 1)more precussion 2)slightly different "tones" 3)the part where Sephiroth uses octaslash(more like octastab to me) should we do something about it? Like add something to this page.

It's already noted under the AC section. It's different, but it's still basically the same version as before, just a big longer. Xenomic

If it's already noted on the page and it's not very different, there's no reason to write a whole new section for it. ScatheMote 22:53, October 23, 2009 (UTC)