Talk:Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings

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Contents 1 Piracy 2 Impressions 3 Is this thing going to be released in North America? 4 Summons 5 PS2 Format 6 Translation guide 7 Sorry for my ignorance! 8 Leveling up 9 Not About Leveling Up 10 Jobs 11 Real Time...in 2D? 12 Cannonity of Revenant WIngs 13 Game Guide/Summon Images? 14 Difficulty Curve vs Level

[edit] Piracy

Goldberry2000 - That was a rhetorical question, and the answer was my fist TALK - Sandbox 11:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC) First of all, I would like to comment that piracy is a bad, awful, terrible thing. Second I would like to mention that anyone who has a DS Flash Cartridge (or the ability to import from Japan) will be glad to hear that the Revenant Wings ROM was released this morning. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the three biggest DS ROMs websites are down for the day because this one game's release has killed their bandwidth. Needless to say, I will be giving it a look, and laughing at the fact that it's not officially released even in Japan for another four days.

AuronKaizer - Forever better than the rest. TALK - Time time knocked me out of my mind. 13:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC) I'm flexible at the most with this piracy thing. If I can't obtain a game in any other way, I use ROMs. And some I download and delete within 24 hours, kind of like a demo eh?

StijnX - Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious - Oscar Wilde TALK - 13:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC) It's not as if Square will miss the money, them being massive and all

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 13:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC) I'd have qualms about getting a ROM. Only problem is, I don't have a DS emulator. Plus, my birthday is next month, so I'm just going to get the limited edition DS (hehe, as if that's going to be possible). The game's already out in Hong Kong though, which is cool.

Goldberry2000 - That was a rhetorical question, and the answer was my fist TALK - Sandbox 15:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Right, I'd like to address some issues with the above messages, in as sarcastic manner as possible: AK: The rule that is posted everywhere about downloading and deleting within 24 hours began as an in joke on Gamefaqs about five years ago and people have slowly started believing that ROMs are legal; if you are kidding in believing otherwise, then fair enough, I'm just mentioning it. StijnX: Square Enix may be one of the better big corperations, but they are still (to quote Homer Simpson: "a big, faceless corperation so that makes it ok". Diablo: I have this flash cartridge: http://www.g6flash.com/ and currently have FF3, Megaman ZX, Pokemon Pearl (I'm so, so sorry) and FF:XII-RW on it. Yeah, that's all I have to say.

AuronKaizer - Forever better than the rest. TALK - Time time knocked me out of my mind. Cannot be bothered to copy Tildes from text program. I know it's a joke, but it feels right. And no need to be sorry about Pokemon, the games are pretty decent RPGs, only it's been ruined by Rushmore-high piles of crap merchandise and/or TV shows/movies.

Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 15:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Considering Square lets a lot of stuff slide, we should try to take the high road with games that aren't at least 5 years old.

StijnX - Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious - Oscar Wilde TALK - 15:46, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Yes, piracy is not bad ^_^

Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 16:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Not entirely. Piracy from RIAA and MPAA bastards just to spite them is okay.

StijnX - Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious - Oscar Wilde TALK - 16:12, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Please note the abnormally large space between the 'is' and the 'bad' that you might want to highlight to reveal more ;)

Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 16:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC) I still have mixed feelings about it.

[edit] Impressions

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 11:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC) Well, most people who have this game are saying that its very easy. Apparently Square weren't kidding when they said this was for beginners. Also, someone on Gfaqs is posting a list of all the summons as he finds them, and let me say this. The main summon template is going to get a complete overhaul with the amount of summons who are now recurring. Two that I can remember are Remora and Quetzacotl.

Ser Blue says at 07:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC) Spoilers! It's FFX-2 all over again!

Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 08:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC) Yay! Quetzacotl! That was one of my favorite summons from VIII. I can't wait for RW to come out here in the USA. I might get impatient enough to download it, but I'll just wait and see. I'm so excited! XD

[edit] Is this thing going to be released in North America?

Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 03:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC) Read topic.

Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants 04:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC) http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=%22Revenant+Wings%22+American+release&meta= Search web.

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 13:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC) I'm willing to bet CSM is kidding, since so many people ask this question on every freaking message board.

[edit] Summons

Is there any article on how the summons are arranged? I've managed to figure out Ramuh's line, for example, but I had to stumble upon the different parts of it - is there any chart or anything saying Ibliss>Djinn>Ifrit, for example, or Baby Shiva>Daarin(?) Shiva>Shiva?

Also - 3 ranks of 5 elements (15) added to the 13 espers (13) adds up to 28, not 50 - there seems to be 22 missing espers. If there's a second type of each rank and element (there seems to be thunder aerial and thunder magical, for example), then there's only 7 missing, but I still can't figure out how that would work. Any answers on the exact setup here?

Summon_magic#Revenant_Wings_Summons. It's called searching, use it a couple of times and you'll get hooked on it ^_^ --Hecko X 01:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, the summons aren't connected at all. It isn't like Pokemon where you need Baby Shiva to get Darling Shiva for example. There are only 3 examples of this "family tree" line of summons, and that's Shiva, Ifrit and Ramuh. Diablocon 16:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PS2 Format

Greyrose TALK - 08:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC) I know it's highly ulikely but do you guys think Square would give a crap about doing this?

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 16:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC) No way. Unlike FFIII, this game actually uses the touchscreen, and thus just wouldn't translate onto any other format.

[edit] Translation guide

Is there a translated script of the game available on any site? 17;30 2007 28 August

Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 00:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC) I have no idea where to even look for something like that, but the American version is coming out soon, so you can just wait for that.

Is the game difficult to play in Japanese for those of you that have played it (if you don't know the language)? (UTC) 19:04 28 August 2007

[edit] Sorry for my ignorance!

LaZodiac - Doink! TALK - As I said, sorry for my ignorance, but when does this game come out in America?

Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 03:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Well, this very article says November 20, but that is my only source.

LaZodiac - Doink! TALK - The one place I didn't look was this page, go figure. Thanks MyMindIsLost.

[edit] Leveling up

I think there is very little level grinding in this game, and you will probably level up as you move along in the storyline. 21:30 28 August (UTC)

LaZodiac - Doink! TALK - Really now? I guess I'll just have to wait and see is this annon is correct.

La Zodiac, I assure you, I am no anon. I am a member of this site no different than yourself. Just because I don't know how too decorate my posts in that cool way that you guys do does not automatically make me an anon.User:Johnnybonanza 21:55 28 August 2007 (UTC)

A common and minimum courtesy in posting comments in the wiki is to sign your post with four tildes so that your username and time of comment will be displayed. Blue。 05:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

LaZodiac - Doink! TALK - Hey, I just guessed anon because it didn't say who it was that posted it, and the person that edited it was a number instead of a name. Ohwell. And just to go back on topic...where did you get that information anyway?

And I sincerely apologize for sounding rude. The info in the post is a guess, because I hear that the game is aimed at Final Fantasy new comers. So I'm guessing that it won't have many of the more complex rpg features. User:Johnnybonanza 12:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Johnnybonanza - no job no money no worries TALK - 01:03 28 August, 2007 (UTC) again just a guess

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 09:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Anyway, back on topic. Yes, very little grinding is required in this game. Only one battle actually requires a little training, all the others can be done with little preparation, or understanding of Japanese. I managed to get Vaan and Llyud to Level 99 simply by doing all the missions in the game. It is very easy to level up.

[edit] Not About Leveling Up

DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity." TALK - {{{time}}} The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? What kind of battle system does this game use? I had no idea it was out already. Should I complete XII before I play this game?

DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity." TALK - {{{time}}} The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? And shouldn't there be a link to this article on the Main Page?

Ser Blue says at 06:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Look under Prequels then between the XI series and the XIII. BTW, maybe you'll need to play FFXII to understand the world of FFXIIRW.

AuronKaizer - Forever better than the rest. TALK - Time time knocked me out of my mind. {{{time}}} Just read the FFXII plot summary, no point in wasting time playing it. This game actually seems better. Not that that's a complete masterpiece to perform.

DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity." TALK - {{{time}}} The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? I'm currently playing XII, and if you don't use gambits it's battle system is so-so. But should I finish?

AuronKaizer - Forever better than the rest. TALK - Time time knocked me out of my mind. {{{time}}} I finished mine and then sold it. You should make up your own mind whether you want to finish it or not though. I say not, but hey, that's opinions right there.

[edit] Jobs

If you've played or read enough about RW, you know the game has a very limited (read: completely static) job system for both players and enemies. Since it's used fairly strangely (most jobs are enemy-only, and their names are only given as unit names in generic battles, or labelling a specific ability for playable characters), is it still okay to make job articles for them? I suppose it's alright to make pages for them anyway, since there are lots of random monster pages, but I don't know whether they qualify for job pages or not. --77.99.30.226 22:56, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 23:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Nearly every enemy in this game is a summon, so basically they already have their pages.

No, I meant the human enemies, such as Sky Pirate, White Mage etc. In story battles they have customised names and descriptions, but they share abilities and models with standardised enemies seen in 'random' battles. --77.99.30.226 23:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 23:09, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Sorry, been a few months since i played this, forgot about them. Since you only fight them, they'd probably get their own enemy pages. No problem.

[edit] Real Time...in 2D?

8bit BlackMage - Now an orchestra will unfold like an angry dip of many layers on the chips of wildest hopes! TALK - All who resist will be beat like naughty little eggs!- {{{time}}} Since I'm still having qualms about buying this game, having never played FFXII (I want a PS2) and reading that the game is beginner-based, I have a question about the battle system, which is in real time. Then why are all the character sprites I see in 2D? Is that possible?

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 11:30, 24 December 2007 (UTC) They're 2-D, but they move around in a 3-D environment.

[edit] Cannonity of Revenant WIngs

Johnnybonanza - no job no money no worries TALK - 14:32, 2 January, 2008 (UTC) I was just wondering that since Revenant Wings is considered as somewhat of a spinoff. Are the events in Revenant Wings considered cannonical in the history of Ivalice? thank you

Yes.

[edit] Game Guide/Summon Images?

I was just wondering if anyone here owns a strategy guide for this game, for the purpose of finding out if artwork of several summons exist. Espers such as Chaos, Exodus, Bahamut, Lamia, Diabolos, etc., have no full artwork uploaded to this site, and stategy guides tend to have a sort of gallery of these things. 8bit 03:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Difficulty Curve vs Level

Lord0din69 - lvl99 TALK - 05:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC) I've noticed that around end of Chapter 9 things become visibly difficult if you haven't done anything besides the main missions. Assuming you're doing ideally the same thing I have, then all your characters are probably around low 40s or high 30s. A lot of the gamefaqs assume you're already past level 50+ at this point. Which I can not image doing without actually going out my way to level up. You will notice this difference in Mission 9-4 where Mydia can one shot kill all your leaders leading to an instant game over if you don't kite her, or leader her to the center of the 3 summoning gates and spawn espers all around her constantly and evenly. I can't imagine anyone getting to level 90ish without doing multiple side missions by the end of the game.