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Article name Edit

FFU Makenshi
Eric Ryan Jones, Master Black Mage — 23:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Should this page be at Etro? A number of other characters' articles have lost titles lately.

Disambiguation, maybe? Edit

At Maker's page it is said, that Maker is Etro. Does it connect these articles?—Kaimi 18:23, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't think the Maker is Etro. Etro is supposed to be a goddess of the dead according to the info we've gotten from FF Versus XIII, and the Maker (also known as Pulse) is another deity. SamSandy 07:57, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Type-0 Edit

Could it be, that this is Etro in Type-0? The Woman is quite similar to Etro in Amano's Artwork of Versus XIII.Cosmic Era 08:54, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

As you might have checked, that character is the one featured on the game's logo. It may be related to the diety, but we have no mention of the trinity of FNC in Type-0, only l'Cie and Crystals. - Henryacores^ 16:34, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Information addEdit

Is it worth noting that Etro is similar to the first syllable of the word Entropy, which means "lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder," which is essentially chaos? Kamikaze839 23:21, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's technically first two syllables, but aside of that it's an interesting notice. I approve.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 23:56, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
I really like this comment, however what type of entropy are you talking about? Entropy is generally a measure of how things are reaching an equilibrium point; the lower the entropy the better. From disorder into order. At least from a thermodynamic perspective. AdeusValcross (talk) 22:38, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

No. Etro = Entropy is a thin connection, and entropy has numerous uses as a word beyond being a synonym for chaos. Drake Clawfang (talk) 00:36, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

As far as etymology goes, I did mention that Etro is similar to Atropos, the goddess of fate and death in Greek Mythology, but then again vowel-t-r-vowel is quite common in the English language, at least to add credence to Western localisation choices.

AdeusValcross (talk) 09:46, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

That is a stronger connection, the names are more directly similar and Atropos has more symbolism to tie into Etro beyond the name. But the Entropy thing I don't think is word nothing. Drake Clawfang (talk) 14:40, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
Edited. It was a nice idea, but a bit flimsy. AdeusValcross (talk) 20:52, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Unforeseen EventsEdit

It's a small thing, but does anyone consider Etro giving Caius her heart or freeing Lightning et al on the Ragnarok Day really lead to "unforeseen" events by Etro? The Eyes of Etro ability lets someone see through time but also makes them unable to change the future of their own timeline to save themselves. Do you think Etro really knew the consequences of her actions but the alternative would be worse for humanity? Or an oversight by SE for an otherwise omniscient goddess who can see every timeline from Valhalla? AdeusValcross (talk) 12:47, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

I think it was mentioned in supplementary material and perhaps in the second game that Etro didn't realise the consequences of her actions when she did that. She wanted to give Yeul eternity to spend with the people of the living world since her soul wouldn't fade in the Unseen Realm, and she was touched by Caius' sacrifice for Yuel and so made him her eternal guardian. She's not exactly an all-powerful goddess: in many ways, she just a rejected lonely child with a strong altruistic attitude. --Crystal Tear (talk) 07:42, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Ahh thank you :) I haven't read the supplementary material. It's been a while since I played XIII-2 but maybe it was mentioned there too. I know she wasn't all-powerful but seeing as Lightning can see all timelines from Valhalla surely Etro could as well, even if things didn't turn out that way. I agree she is altruistic in that she cares deeply about humanity who she considers her children. Thanks for clearing that up :) AdeusValcross (talk) 16:32, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

XV Duscae Mural question Edit

There is a mural at the end of Episode Duscae, and a couple of screenshots are available: 1, 2. It's clear that the "angel" is the same as in the game's logo, but could she also be Etro? It's a little out there, but as the artwork seems to depict the main protagonists, the Eidolons and images of death, it seems fairly natural that the large winged woman looking down on the central figure (likely Noctis) is the Goddess. I realise that Amano's artwork is quite different, but it could have been changed, the artwork was created specifically for the demo, or (a little more likely) there are multiple depictions of her in XV's world. --Crystal Tear (talk) 20:57, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

I never made the connection that the angelic figure is the same as the logo. I commented on the episode duscae page about how I thought the angel was probably Etro what with the withering wings and darkening cloak. I think at this stage it's hard to say but it is likely what with her connection to eidolons and passing her power to the humans below her it is Etro. AdeusValcross (talk) 21:09, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

I think it is worth mentioning that FFXV is not part of Nova Crystallis anymore. 07:01, June 28, 2016 (UTC) David