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Contents 1 Site Update 2 US release 3 Cinematic Camera? 4 Concerning Shantotto 5 chaos and cosmos artwork 6 Gabranth 7 dissidia in mobile? 8 Update 9 12/13 Universes 10 Another Update 11 Alternate Costumes 12 Dissidia Wikia 13 New Interview explains some things 14 Job and Status cards 15 NA Site Update 16 Main Character 17 wakka? Seplhie? 18 Dissidia Before Final Fantasy I 19 Name 20 voice animation? 21 Dissidia Canada Release Date? (Unofficial) 22 Gamesharing? 23 U.S. Date 24 English Voice Actors 25 Epic Changes in the Western Release! 26 God of Discord 27 Extra songs 28 Characters? 29 Name 30 Moogle in Dissidia 31 Frame by Frame scan 32 American Trailer 33 Website Goofs 34 Chaos storyline? 35 KH Sequel? 36 Combo Video 37 Dissidia etymology 38 Attack Tables 39 Chaos' Factions 40 Possible Western Internet Play? 41 English Voices 42 US Dissidia extra cutscenes 43 Dissidia: Is it canon or not? 44 Dissidia Universal Tuning 45 Accomplishments page 46 Why was Locke even considered? 47 Bug? 48 DAMMIT SQUARE 49 Masters of Evil

[edit] Site Update

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} I don't care who knows it already, but for those who don't, the site has been updated with Cloud and Sephiroth.

There's a video thats titled "????" on the site to i wonder what its going to be?

SilverSummoner - Believe it or not, I've been stalking your talk page all these times... O_O Liek srsly TALK - {{{time}}} hopefully it will be a video bout Squall.... =D. anyway, I'm a bit curious bout the battle system after seeing Cloud battles sephiroth... -.-"

Bahamut-shin - ...vivo en mi propia realidad TALK - {{{time}}} maybe is a video with shantotto or/and other secret character or a CG opening

I think that the ??? video that is not playable will be a video of all the secret characters that are going to be in Dissidia. Personally, I'm hoping that some of the secret characters will be a villain from XI, a hero and villain from XII, and some fan favorite characters throughout the Final Fantasy series, like maybe Aerith, or Tifa, or Kain, or Yuna, or Locke, or Gilgamesh, or many others.

- Jake2K

i agree on you with you on Tifa, Kain, and Yuna but im not really sure who Locke is

Locke is one of Terra's allies in Final Fantasy VI. Cluna 06 03:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh i didn't know that thanks.....i hope the ???? video on the site dose show all the secret characters....if there is more secret characters how many more would they put?

One of the reasons I want Aerith to be in the game is because I would like to see her square off against Sephiroth.

- Jake2K

That would be cool....i want to see RedXIII and Cait Sit...wait didn't Aerith get killed by Sephiroth

Wait i know this has nothing to do with this section but since its the 20th anniversary shouldn't there be enemy's in this game not just fighting each character cuz then the game would go by really fast wouldn't you think and if you notice it's like a game of chess to get to the enemy so im guessing that every steep you fight an enemy? im not sure but if any one has any idea plzzz tell me

I think you run into enemies while you are on the chess board. I may be mistaken, but I think you can see the enemies that you run into; they aren't random encounters. And yes, Aerith did get killed by Sephiroth. I'm hoping she can get revenge in Dissidia. - Jake2K

Bahamut-shin - ...vivo en mi propia realidad TALK - {{{time}}} I post 3 new scans of dissidia in the forum section, here disfruten: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:3_new_scans_of_dissidia_and_maybe_FFXII%3F%3F%3F&t=20081203172040

Ya i was thinking the same thing oh and i meant fiends not enemy's i forgot what they were called

Story Mode Gameplay Video it's a download on the official Dissidia site http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3RToVeJIiI&fmt=18 and it shows some enemy's and there not fiends there knights i guess

FinalFighterA+ - ...has too much time on his hands TALK - time? {{{time}}} I know its a long shot but im kinda hoping for a DQ cameo, like the the hero from DQ1 and the dragon king, yeah

That mystery video turned out to be a cinematic view of the gameplay trailer between Cloud and Sephiroth. It was updated on the official site today. - Jake2K

[edit] US release

i've herd ppl saying this wont come out in the US, is there any truth in those claims? srry if this has been asked b4, i looked thru some of the archives here, but i didn't see any1 else ask. thanks in advance. Akbaroth 18:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Oranejo - rabble, rabble, rabble TALK - 19:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC) No US release date has been announced, but I would not worry about it. I guarantee you this will come to the US eventually.

ok tnx, that's wut i thought, now the only question is... hmm... how to get a psp soon Akbaroth 19:35, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure it's coming to North America because i read the interview that you left the link to and idk the way it sounded was kind of like uhh Japans hella better and there was suppose to be 25 stages and 50+ summons.... and now there's only 12 stages they better have 50+ summons still

Fascinating. Whatever language that person is trying to speak is so similar to English, yet at the same time so alien it's completely indecipherable. We'll have to get our top etymologists on this immediately--it may be the missing link we've been looking for. Dazuro 21:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Silver Dragon XXVIII - Everybody needs to watch this: The Spoony One's FFVIII Review TALK - {{{1}}} Veni, vidi, vici. I'm sure that there will be a US release. You know why? More countries=more money. Besides, why wouldn't they?

As Square-Enix has proven with their many remakes/rereleases, and the Compilation of FF7, they have no qualms milking the franchise. Like SilverDragon said, if it can make them money, it will be released here. That's also why I'm sure there will be a Final Fantasy VI DS some day - it can make them money. Drake Clawfang 02:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Silver Dragon XXVIII - Say what you will about his outfit, Kuja is still far better than your precious Sephiroth TALK - {{{1}}} Veni, vidi, vici. Can someone cast Haste on Square-Enix so that they make the US release happen sooner?

There is a potential release date for this game of 31 August of 2009. So let's hope it doesn't get pushed back...again.-Shadow 19:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

SE of America denied that release date several weeks ago. Diablocon 19:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Where did you get that information from?-Shadow 19:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I can't remember the source but here's our news post about it. Diablocon 20:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey do you think they'll make a PAL version and send it to Australia? -Sencilia

Sjoerd777 - "Wasupp Thundaah!!!" TALK - For the EU, it's around September 09, US release has been listed as Q3, and i've not even heard of anything for the AUS version.

Ah well, thanks anyway - Sencilia

Well according to the article and a clerk at the Gamestop in Brea Mall, its officially August 25. Unfortunately, I have to wait my whole figgin' Summer for it but I'm still gonna get it anyways. I've already rerserved a copy. Cobalt Mage 16:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cinematic Camera?

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} Holy crap. The fight angles were like Advent Children. If that kind of thing was playable, would'nt it be awesome? Although i think it's like a replay mode.

AndresTiger - Derp Derp Derp Derp TALK - {{{time}}} It's a video editor. You can record your battles in Dissidia and then edit the camera angles and such. Then you can save it and upload them online so were probably going to see a ton of videos like that online when Dissidia is released in Japan.

[edit] Concerning Shantotto

Cluna 06 - "Got any complaints?" TALK - Smiles out of embarrassment. Why is Shantotto's EX Burst named Lost Temper and not Magic Burst? Find out here! [1]

And who's going to be Shantotto's counterpart? It must be some one of the regular non-addon-FFXI ... but I only can find the Shadow Lord as a suitable "partner" ... but isn't that guy a little bit TOO big? (he even could have his dynamis lord form as EX Break) --Haitani 13:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. It will be the villian in the new expansion pack wtih shantotto —Losing my religion

[edit] chaos and cosmos artwork

Bahamut-shin - ...vivo en mi propia realidad TALK - {{{time}}} here look:http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081210_154549_0_big.jpg

Hmm I can't help it but yoshitaka amano's artwork of Cosmos reminds me of Altana (the goddess in FF11). --Haitani 13:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gabranth

Dark_Paladin_Danny - ... Is worshipping Kefka TALK - 18:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC) Once again I've got the first picture of the newly revealed character ^^ Gabranth has been revealed in the latest (And awesome) trailer walking over to Shantotto! Enjoy http://www.dissidia-france.com/img/temp/gabranth.jpg

Ser Blue says at 19:01, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Which means the Chaos side of XI and XII are yet to be revealed... hm..

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. Naw, Gabranth is a villian —Jolene

Ser Blue says at 19:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Hmm....perhaps this is actually Basch... and its villAIn :)

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 19:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Dear Dissidia, I now love you and totally forgive any past misgivings you may have had. Love Diablocon.

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. Erm sorry, and that is a possibility —Jesus Take The Wheel

Other armor with cape? (Garland, Golbez, Exdeath, Gabranth...) I prefer Vayne or Venat (Chaos side) and Ashe (Cosmos side)--Sinh 20:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. IF it is Gabranth, who will be the hero, vaan or Basch. Vaan as Gabranth killed roks or Basch as they are brothers. —Jesus Take the Wheel

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There will be no counterparts; Shantotto and Garland are special characters. Shantotto's storyline won't even be "linked" to the story of the other characters, and it will probably be like that with Garland too. Apparently both characters are meant to be neutral but Shantotto is closer to Cosmos than Chaos and Garland is closer to Chaos than Cosmos. Anyway, let's hope Garland has an alternate costume with no helmet even though that would be kinda spoilery for people who didn't play FFXII yet (it's the most recent installment after all). Bluetash 09:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. Garland? Yip, He was the villain from the original, but you are talking as if he was GABRANTH We now know, thanks to dazuro, wait that rhymes. Any we know its gabranth for sure. Very cool, should i try to crop it so it is only Gabranth —Jesus take the wheel

I know, but they both look the same to me. Yet another caped, heavily-armored guy with a helmet covering his face. Way to waste a character slot, SE. Bluetash 15:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. Its says Gabranth up the top —Proud Mary

My bad, I typed the wrong person down, garland not Gabranth) and I didn't even notice, sorry about that, next time ill proofread. LinkSlySora 17:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dissidia in mobile?

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} kingdom hearts coded/mobile released this picture. i think that it should be somewhere in the dissidia article or something

Deadlyslashsword - +It takes disaster to learn a lesson, but you're going to make it through the darkest nights+ TALK - {{{time}}} - Am I too late...to be saved? It's probably only there to promote Dissidia, so it's really not worth noting.

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/119673-kigndom-hearts-mobile-begins.html

[edit] Update

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} I can't find Shantotto, or the other three spaces in the character section anywhere, it said so in the news, but I don't see them. EDIT:Can anyone tell me how to see hem?

16:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC) —W/B Wow, I hope it's FFXI's villain and FFXII's hero, but at the same time I want Chaos and Cosmos to be playable. Hmm... (Haven't seen the page yet)

17:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC) —W/B @Cecil: Go to the Dissidia website, click on characters and you'll get two semi-circles, one with the Roman numerals, and one with Japanese in, click the one on the right (one with just Japanese text). Though this does not prove there will be four more characters. Could be ten more, could be two more (Shantotto and Gabranth ain't on there/there yet)

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. Shantotto is there, was there this morning. —Suzie Q

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} I only get one semi circle with the roman numerals. WHY ME??!!

17:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC) —W/B @Ultima: Read my statement again, and if you don't understand, you never will... Okay, I'll try and say it in different words: There is a different way to view the characters - This different way shows only the twenty from the first ten games. @Cecil: Hold Shift+click refresh, or Ctrl+click refresh (browser dependent). If it's still not there, then I'll get a screen of what it looks like.

Ultima - Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. I never listen to anybody. bar hot women, and then i dont hear that much cause of my imagination —Rollin on a river

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} Okay I'll try it. My internet connection failed and I need to go again. EDIT:Now it doens't want to even enter the page, the screen seems like a good idea.

19:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC) —W/B This

lol Ultima love the comments hehe, yeah that is some update! For those who still havent seen it or cant due to internet/flash problems i'll explain, The "Characters" section now has an entirely new area accessible by clicking on the half-circle with japanese kanji on it(much like the old roman numeral one on the left, who Shantotto is now present) located in the lower-right hand side of the screens display. Its pretty much a 'face' display of all 20 story characters in order of their respective game, much like most fighting games 'character-select' screen format. Theres 3 rows, the top 2 having 8 characters and the bottom having a centered 4(leaving 2 spaces on each side blank/4 total)<<<probley where Shantotto and Gabranth will go. Once a character is highlighted/selected it opens a new window that shows their full offical art, FF logo(their from) and a brief discribtion on how that character fights as well as 3 to 4 screenshots of them doing signature attacks/specials. Im now speculationg the idea of Chaos and Cosmos being playable/unlockable as theres still two spaces left, but idk bout that...wont be waiting long to find out nether, TWO DAYS LEFT BABY! As for other updates theres now 2 new PSP/wallpapers available, one of the heros with Cosmos, the other the villains with Chaos(both are 'face' images of the characters). Its a grand update showing many new images, such as my man Golbez firing a hella HADOKEN into Cecils face, HA! - Xenoheart 19:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} Thanks ILHI, I took long because I had to leave for a moment but I left the computer on. Now I see it, but I see no Shantoto or Gabranth.

-Alarielle- - Fight your destiny and be free… Forever… TALK - Going to go Fanboy on KH BbS worse than I did on Dissidia ^^ Shantotto is only is the "old" character section, not in that new part yet. As for Gabranth, he's simply not in the site.

Xenoheart - Get busy Livin, or get busy diein TALK - NEED DISSIDIA NOW!!! {{{time}}} The last Dissidia trailer is out, check it out here, http://www.mediafire.com/?1xzmngyeo4m Sorry dont know(yet) any other way to post/link vids here on wikia so if im breaking any rules im sorry(just let me know and i wont do it again!) anyways its SOOO cool showing us bits more on characters, stages and gameplay as well as some surprizing stuff as well. CHECK IT OUT, just click download and either open or save. btw bloody 6 hours left till release(in Japan that is)

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} Actually you're not breaking any rules by posting a link to a video, in a page here, I'll check the vid, thanks for putting the link up.

[edit] 12/13 Universes

NeoBahamut - Rise my demon of death! TALK - Time to take over the world! Let my shadow be casted among all who obey and oppose me! {{{time}}} Should we creat a page for the 12 and soon to be 13 worlds of Final Fantasy? If there is already a page for this then never mind.

I want to know why the main page still says that the meaning of that line is still unknown. "There are 12 worlds" obviously refers to the fact that there are twelve main Final Fantasy titles currently out and "the 13th is about to be revealed" is talking about Final Fantasy XIII, which is/was not out at the time of Dissidia's release.

Nubecielo - Check my FF Stuff TALK - 11:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC) My theory is this: There are 12 worlds and the 13th is the Cosmos/Chaos Universe. FFXIII makes a little appearence: There are FFXIII, Versus and Agito icons

[edit] Another Update

FinalFighterA+ - ...has too much time on his hands TALK - time? {{{time}}} Themes for VII-X have been added along with ability to veis each characters Ex-Mode individualy on the secondary character page

Cecil the Paladin - Is playing the awesome Kingdom Hearts seriees!!!!!!!! TALK - "Which one do you like most?" {{{time}}} Theme's, as in music?

Oranejo - rabble, rabble, rabble TALK - 15:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC) No, themes for your PSP. (wallpaper and icons)

-Alarielle- - Fight your destiny and be free… Forever… TALK - Going to go Fanboy on KH BbS worse than I did on Dissidia ^^ BTW, could someone explain to me how you use these themes ? I just bought my PSP and don't understand Japanese, so I don't know much of all this... Please ?

[edit] Alternate Costumes

This guy hacked the game and posted a vid of all available costumes for heroes and villains.

Check it out if you're interested. Be warned tho, SPOILERS (duh)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Z1uhO2-uo

There really isn't any spoilers. From what I've seen, it's anywhere from 2-3 costume changes. Some alt. costumes are the Amano Artworks of the char., Weapon Changes, original game forms (In the case of Tidus and Jecht), and color changes as well. -Azul81677 07:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

It's spoilers for those who want to earn the costumes themselves.

Yup, but it was already posted on the forums. Alarielle

Nubecielo - Check my FF Stuff TALK - 18:45, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Each character only has ONE and only one alternate costume. Those who seems to have more of one has a logical explanation: EX-MODE. When you display the costumes, you see in this order. Original, Original EX-MODE, Alt. Alt EX-MODE, Crystal Mode (minor enemy in Story Mode. For example, Onion has 2 EX-Mode Costumes (Ninja and Sage), Cecil can swap into Paladin and Dark K, Cloud change his weapon in Ex (Buster -> Ultima) and in his alt. costume (First_Tsurugi -> First_Tsurugi Complete) EDIT: There isn't a hack, this is a Museum Options where you can see all characters models.

[edit] Dissidia Wikia

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that i'm working on a wiki about Final Fantasy:Dissidia. It's a lot of work translating the entire game, so if you want, go ahead and link to it (it's dissidia.wikia ) - i'm not gonna set up a link myself since that would be self-promotion. Other people have to decide on it's relevance. --Elvaron 17:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

As epic as DISSIDIA is, does it realy need a whole Wikija all to itself? Jamiemitsu 15:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Wait a minute, is it a translation Wiki or just a regular Wiki? If it's a translation Wiki, great, they're really helpful (was of great help during my original Japanese run of FFXII). However, if it's a regular wiki like this one, I don't really see the point. Diablocon 15:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Translation Wiki. There's no english version of Dissidia yet, so we translate everything, from item names to descriptions, with the japanese original names included for reference. It's basically a tool to connect translators and users. --Elvaron 20:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

This is a great idea, if it's only a translation wiki. I hope you'll be able to complete the most soon. Alarielle

The problem is, what happens with the English version comes out? I really don't see the need for Dissidia to get its own wiki. It's deep, but I doubt it's that deep. Drake Clawfang 19:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Translation wikias become obsolete as a english releases come out, and Dissidia is not the first my friend. Just keep covering Dissidia on its fullest, and use the Dissidia Wiki for reference until summer. - Henryacores^ 20:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

We might want to make pages specific to the dissidia incarnations of characters and stages. Just a thought. SilverDragon28 19:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New Interview explains some things

Bahamut-shin - ...vivo en mi propia realidad TALK - {{{time}}} So a journalist, not sure form which magazine (it wasn't famitsu oddly enough) managed to interview Nomura about a few things, besides things like "Future projects, FFvsXIII and the KH series (Which he gave no new information on either of those two) he did shed some light on Dissidia, probably because the game was already out. Some info's kind of like a "Oh we already know this" others might spark tiny interests. SO here's a brief summary. Nomura also notes that the game was only under his supervision, however he did lend a helping hand in some parts before the interview started. 1 - Sephiroth was going to have his final from from Final Fantasy VII, but the ammount of data put into this form would have cuased the game to load whenever Ex-Bursting. 2 - Seifer was a candidate due to having a close relation / rival against Squall. However due to their very similar fighting styles Seifer got scratched off and Ultimecia was brought in. 3 - Seymour was going to be placed into Dissidia and was our first choice for a character selection in Final Fantasy 10. However conflict began soon after the decision leading to thoughts such as "Should Yuna be the main character, or Tidus." From there it was decided to be Tidus, and Seymour was removed due to the fact Tidus had no seperate issue with Seymour, withuot Yuna being involed and therefore was thrown in. 4 - Ultimecia's Ex-mode was going to be her final form in Final Fantasy VIII, including her Ex-burst being the "Apocalypse" spell. This was an early idea scratched and never got passed the concept art form. The reason being the same as Sephiroth's final form. 5 - Choosing a representative for Final Fantasy XII took on the thought path the same way Final Fantasy XI was presented. "A good / evil character with enough neutrality in them to not be considered on one side only." 6 - Kain was already a finished model, and had his own moveset, however we later scratched him with Cecil. Zeromus was also going to appear, however in a more human form. He was later scratched for Golbeza to tell the story of the two brothers instead. 7 - As shown with Gabranth and Shantotto's only scene in the game, there has been more then one battle between Chaos and Cosmos where help was needed. This game is to tell the story of the final conflict between the two. 8 - The character's that are grasped from each of their worlds memories are altered by Cosmos and Chaos, all events that happened in this conflict are then erased just like the others. (Others?) 9 - When asked if Dissidia had any true relationship to the FInal Fantasy series, he only said that was up to the player to decide. 10 - When asked if there would be another game portraying any of the other wars in between Cosmos and Chaos. Nomura commented with "It would be interesting, however there are many other projects going on. So we'll leave this game as an anniversary special." 11 - When asked about Future Projects in general, Nomura did state that the Winter 2009 Festival (which is in February / March) will hold surprising news and new playable demo characters for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days. Also that the first gameplay image of Versus XIII will be released to the public in the middle of this year. (Besides that he didn't say anything new about those two games). So that's basically it. Source: 2ch (PSP) DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY 207 [FF]

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 20:41, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Some interesting stuff. Nice to see the thought processes going on behind the scenes. Now my post is about to contain some spoilers on Dissidia's (awesome) ending. The character's that are grasped from each of their worlds memories are altered by Cosmos and Chaos, all events that happened in this conflict are then erased just like the others. (Others?) So that means the game can easily be a prequel to the original Final Fantasy. At the end we see the WoL walk towards Cornelia with Crystal in hand (and sweep to the awesome moment when the ending turns into the original's intro), so for all we know he's standing in Cornelia with a crystal he can't remember getting, ready to be drafted as one of the warriors. XD When asked if Dissidia had any true relationship to the FInal Fantasy series, he only said that was up to the player to decide. We'll I've decided it's the prequel to the original. :P

Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim. TALK - 20:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Interesting stuff about the cut cocnepts and characters. So Kain came that close to being in the game. If he had a finished model and moveset, shouldn't be too hard to add him as a special character for the NA release... Seriously, hope they release some concept art of the game in time to come. It'd be nice to see how Seifer and Kain would have looked, and Sephiroth and Ultimecia in their boss forms.

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} you know what? I bet they'll do the same thing as others. They have some extra time before the release date of Na, so they add special stuff. Then the jap version gets international, and even MORE special shit. Im with drake on that one. KAIN FTW

AndresTiger - Derp Derp Derp Derp TALK - {{{time}}} Might want to hold off adding any information from this to the articles. Schala-Kitty looked up the source and found out it was false so unless something Official comes out this info is bull. Some of the info from this did sound odd anyways. For example they were strict on the Main Hero concept so why they would decide at first to use Kain sounds very strange.

-Alarielle- - Fight your destiny and be free… Forever… TALK - Going to go Fanboy on KH BbS worse than I did on Dissidia ^^ I also thought that. Kain and Zeromus representing IV ? As they say it's main villain VS main hero everywhere ? Kain doesn't fit that. Zeromus... either. Zemus at least.

Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim. TALK - 15:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC) I can't recall where I heard this, but I read that Gabranth and Shantotto were chosen for bonus characters because they didn't really fit fully on the side of either good or evil, as they had inclinations for both. More hope for Kain, maybe?

Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 16:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC) More likely the person who wrote this peppered it with real facts to make it sound more convincing.

[edit] Job and Status cards

Borny☺ Talk · Contribs · Blog 04:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC) What are they? And can we maybe have an article on them?

Oranejo - rabble, rabble, rabble TALK - 04:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC) They are cards that grant various effects when playing through Duel Colosseum. Like, for instance, a Knight card grants one extra card selection slot to choose from or a Time Mage card increases your card luck by one. I guess there could be an article on them, but I would wait to hear from a staff member before doing one though.

Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people TALK - 19:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC) An article on the Duel Colosseum is more than enough.

[edit] NA Site Update

FinalFighterA+ - ...has too much time on his hands TALK - time? {{{time}}} The NA site has changed from the rather cheesy "fantasy has no limited form" bit, to "What will you fight for" with a scale and a silloette of Cosmos and Chaos and the Dissidia music we are all so familiar with, and the words coming soon under it. Though the DQ5 preview site had coming soon on it as soon as DQ4 cam out in america and it just recently got updated so I wouldn't hold my breath. But still progress is progress.

[edit] Main Character

Question for anyone who played the game - is it safe to say Warrior of Light is the main character? I realized every character gets their storyline and moment in the spotlight, but he seems particularly emphasized as the Warrior of Cosmos closest to her, and the leader of the heroes. Drake Clawfang 05:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

No. Shade Impulse doesn't emphasise in any character other than Chaos, and the Destiny Odysseys are connected. Also, Cosmos appears to most heroes in Destiny Odyssey storyline (Warrior of Light, Tidus, Zidane, Onion Knight, and more I can't recall). Like the first Final Fantasy, it's safe to say that the main characters are the Warriors of "Light", and that the main antagonist is Chaos himself. - Henryacores^ 10:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] wakka? Seplhie?

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} can any1 show me where they are in the game? I can't seem to find it.

Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people TALK - 23:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC) Oh jesus...Do I really have to waste time on this?! -_- EDIT I thought you wanted pics. Wakka is one of the tutors of the Shop area and Selphie is somewhere I can't find, which supposely shows information on characters.

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} haha i do want pics.

Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people TALK - 15:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC) -_-

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} can ANYONE tell me WHERE THEY ARE? please?

[edit] Dissidia Before Final Fantasy I

"In the secret ending of the game, unlocked after obtaining all the Reports, Cosmos is shown to be alive in her world. She has a discussion with Cid of the Lufaine, implying that the events of the game are a prologue to Final Fantasy."

What? How can be so sure about that, the max we could say for sure is the report's story appens before Final Fantasy (i saw them). Not Dissidia itself. And the secret ending doesn't states anything of that, just a mere talk about new cycles that doesn't prove anything like that. 82.155.209.206 00:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

... I'm the guy of the last post, i logged in now, Here's the translation of the secret ending:

Cid: The long war has finally concluded...

• Scene opens on Cosmos sitting on her throne.*

Cid: Or should I say it regretfully concluded?

• Cid laughs.*

Cid: It cannot end like this...

Cosmos: The world has a new wish.

Cid: As long as the world exists, there will always be seeds of conflict.

Cid: Things like "harmony" and "discord" are born from the "thoughts and feelings" of man.

Cosmos: Is there... nothing that can be done about it?

Cid: Even with the power of the Lufein, this problem cannot be solved.

Cid: You know that truth well...

Cosmos: The future...

Cid: Then, let us go.

Cid: As the chosen goddess... Restore the cycle again.

Cid: Continue the journey of our story towards the ultimate illusion...

While the reports states events before FFI on the world of FFI, i think we can't say the same about dissidia with the secret ending as "prove". After i read the secret ending a bit more, i think the true meaning of it is telling us that conflict in the "FINAL FANTASY" Universe didn't end (AKA Square gonna make more FF :P) and we all now what "Ultimate Illusion" means... It's possible that Dissidia appens before FFI (Which IMO doesn't make sense, but that just me) but the secret ending is not prove of that. CookiePinguy 09:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt it's canon, as SE even implied that it isn't. It's up to the player to decide if it is or not a prequel, and thus, this should only be covered on the wiki as an hypothesis. - Henryacores^ 12:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree, Dissidia is more likely a "What if" as someone stated. This whole theory started with the ending of dissidia, by WOL going to Cornelia, and some people interpreted that as the begining of FFI, but it's looks like just a reference and the return of a hero to home (like the other 9 heros did, and besided that scene on final fantasy appens with 4 WOL and AFTER leaving Cornelia). And when apeared translations of the reports that tells about Cid of Lufaine and his wife story before "FFI" (they mention the Lufains, Crystals, a vilage on a wing of a hawk, Lukahn prophecy of the 4WOL, and a boy that looks being Garland). Some people thought again that Dissidia main story too. Maybe it's better to put it as an hypothesis on trivia or something like that. CookiePinguy 13:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Silver Dragon XXVIII - Poor Dark Messenger, an awesome song forced to forever live in the shadow of its older brother, One-Winged Angel. TALK - {{{1}}} Veni, vidi, vici. Is anyone else confused about the name? Is Dissidia a word in Japanese? Does it mean something, or is it just a made up word that Square Enix thought sounded cool?

Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people TALK - 20:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC) Really old topic. "Dissidia" comes from the latin word "Dissidens", which originated the french word "Dissident" and the portuguese word "Dissidente", the latter meaning, roughly, "one that causes conflict". Thus, Dissidia means conflict.

Actually, the word is "Dissidium". Dissidia is the plural form of it, thus the title means Conflicts. Bluetash 23:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Even i didn't now that Dissidente was a portuguese word, and im Portuguese, isn't a word that is actually used nowadays but yes it's com form latin so yeah... CookiePinguy 08:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Silver Dragon XXVIII - "Peace is but a shadow of death, desperate to forget its painful past...Though we hope for promising years. After shedding a thousand tears, yesterday's sorrow constantly nears. And while the moon still shines blue, by dawn, it will turn to scarlet hue!" —Kuja TALK - {{{1}}} Veni, vidi, vici. Thanks, I had been wondering about that for a while.

Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people TALK - 21:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC) @CookiePinguy: Read more. I'm portuguese and "Dissidente" isn't archaic at all.

Haha, no i think the lacking of reading isn't the problem XD , since this is internet i just didn't thought too much about it. Yes it was a mistake of mine, in fact yes it isn't that archaic, i just more acostumized to hear more "Dissidência" that actually "Dissidente" :P CookiePinguy 00:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

"According to wikipedia: Noun: dissident(s)

A person who formally opposes the current political structure, opposes the political group in power, opposes the policies of the political group in power, or opposes current laws.

It comes from the latin "dissidere" meaning to sit apart. as in to disagree." The English word "Dissident" is also derived from it via the French word. 92.236.212.73 01:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] voice animation?

i noticed that crisis core's voice animations were fit to match that of the English dialogue; since thats a pretty recent game and also on the psp, do you think they will do the same for english version of dissidia, otherwise why would they be taking so long?

thoughts? --Zack fair 007 04:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

from the videos i've seen, the voice animations are rather weak/non-existent in the Japanese version as it is --Adonzo 06:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You've a point there, but it KINDA moves.... lol --Zack fair 007 22:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dissidia Canada Release Date? (Unofficial)

Hey guys,

I just stopped by at my local EB Games store in Vancouver, BC, and their "upcoming releases" catalogue stated that the game would be released on October 1, 2009. Can anyone else confirm? Thanks. Stradiviper 01:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The guy at my EB games (which is in New westminster, Greater Vancouver) says its unconfirmed, but probally a summer release. --Zack fair 007 18:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gamesharing?

I was wondering if Dissidia supported gamesharing. If it does, how do you access it on the Japanese version of Dissidia? - Jake2K

It doesn't. If War of the Lions can't support gamesharing, while being a much lighter game, how the hell could Dissidia? Get real.- 10:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I just asked because somebody on Wikipedia said that the game supported gamesharing. I didn't think it supported gamesharing, since I have the Japanese version, but I just wanted to be 100% sure. - Jake2K

Aww dang it so I an ONLY play it with someone else with the game? Sorry if I'm being Mr.Obvious. Cobalt Mage 17:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Date

They say the U.S. release Date is 8/31/2009

Who's "they" - FinalFighterA+

Square-Enix.

This may help: [2] 1stclasswarrior 17:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Unless there's official verification from Square-Enix, this will be viewed as false. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 18:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It's better than nothing, for now... we could add it in and change it if it is wrong. 1stclasswarrior 18:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I just watch the english trailer, It said summer 09 that all we know so far. ZEROX (C) 18:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] English Voice Actors

HarpieSiren - "There's not a thing I don't cherish!" TALK - {{{time}}} - It's not heavy. It's... a memento Okay, guys, I know we're all getting anxious about it. But don't forget, there is still nothing official about the English cast of Dissidia. IMDb is not official, Wikipedia is not official. Can we please stop editing the characters' pages with the English VA until Square Enix confirms it, or the actor confirms it and we can prove it was them (i.e. An interview, or something on their official website)?

Solfaris TALK - With each passing day, the world finds new and exciting ways to kill a man. Well you can be certain that Steve Burton & George Newbern will be reprising their roles as Cloud & Sephiroth respectively. The only other characters we can be halfway certain of are Tidus (James Arnold Taylor), Jecht (Gregg Berger) & Judge Gabranth (Michael Rodgers) to have their original actors. However I do agree with you. Across from the first 2 mentioned nothing is as of yet for certain. Edit: Also forgot. Cecil Harvey (Yuri Lowenthal) & Golbez (Anthony Landor) may or may not reprise their roles. also, I'm betting that Chaos will likely be voiced by Sean Schemmel (the voice of Black Doom in Shadow the Hedgehog) since most times evil gods have a more monstrous voice in English than Japanese.

[edit] Epic Changes in the Western Release!

It's too exciting, but it was also too hard for me to say, I found this info out on a Final Fantasy News site.

• http://www.finalfantasyunion.com/news/new-characters-in-western-dissidia-amongst-other-additions--385.html

So far, there have been news about more cutscenes, more characters, and among others.

Someone's late to the party, there's been a forum topic about this for two hours now. Drake Clawfang 03:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, news comes to me at the most random times. I guess this is what I get for relying on Gmail. User:Werehog21 8:51 PM 5/9/2009 (UTC)

Never did see those new cutscene characters. The Price of Freedom is Steep - Zack 16:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Gabranth, Shantotto and the Moogle. Drake Clawfang 19:03, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I guess. That article was kind of misleading. FaythOfFenrir 19:23, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] God of Discord

I just checked the official NA website. Chaos is still called the God of Discord, so where's this God of Destruction crap coming from?

The trailer. Drake Clawfang 15:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Extra songs

I knowof some of the secret songs from the game, but I don't know which ones they picked for I, III and IV, can anyone tell me?

The one for IV is the redwings theme. Entitled, "Red Wings" --Zack fair 007 22:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

"Town Theme", "Rebel Army Theme", "Crystal Tower", "Red Wings", "Decisive Battle", "Dancing Mad", "Bombing Mission", "Man with the Machine Gun", "Dark Messenger", "Seymour Battle", "Awakening", "Boss Battle" - Henryacores^ 00:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you ^_^

[edit] Characters?

tEhLaStBoSs1337 - "Tell me what you cherish most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away." TALK - 10:51 It would be cool if I could see the characters that will be in the game, heroes, and villians. I was dissapointed when I couldn't find them here, and they're on Wiki.

Oranejo - rabble, rabble, rabble TALK - 15:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC) If you click List of Dissidia Final Fantasy Characters at the top of the character section of this article you are taken to a list that has all the characters in the game.

tEhLaStBoSs1337 - "Tell me what you cherish most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away." TALK - 19:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC) Didn't catch that the first time, thanks.

I can't wait until the extra areas, scenes, and characters are announced later. I'm hoping for Zeromus and Yuna to appear, as well as Bahamut, or Tifa. User:Werehog21 3:37 PM 5/27/2009 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I have a piece of music called Dissidia. It's by Manuel Le Saux. I'm not making a point, I just thought I'd say.  ILHI ^(W/B) 19:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I just listened to it. Some trance I don't like, but this song was okay. Do you know if it was released before or after the game? - +DeadlySlashSword+ 22:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It was released in April.  ILHI ^(W/B) 14:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Moogle in Dissidia

I just noticed now, at the E3 trailer at the end apears a moogle by some fractions of second. One of those new cameos charactes? CookiePinguy 22:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I didnt see any--Zack fair 007 23:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Surely. - Henryacores^ 23:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh hey i saw it! NEVERMIND. --Zack fair 007 00:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

The timestamp on that is 1:43, in case anyone was wondering. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 04:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I definitely saw a moogle. MAybe they made the summons 3D? Devil Breaker 36 04:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Very unprobable, since there are 50, and 10 have two versions. It's either a NPC or a new playable character. - Henryacores^ 12:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Pink nose, pom pom, white fur, That looks like Mog to me, with no spear, MOG!!!! Hope other moogles are in like Montblanc Devil Breaker 36 02:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it might be a previously unrevealled shop keeper. Or more likely, it is the games helper. Probably shows up for the tutorial or something.--Werefang 00:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Frame by Frame scan

I just scanned the E3 trailer, they changed the Guard Crush to Defense Crush, as seen when Terra used tornado to Kefka. If further trailers are introduced, I'll update the pages. DB36 14:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC) :Just your friendly neighborhood Dissidia Scanner...

[edit] American Trailer

I've been noticing lots of edits on the Dissidia-related articles because of the new E3 trailer. Is it on youtube or is there a link someone can give me for that? Cobalt Mage 17:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Why do we even have the news box if no one reads it? Drake Clawfang 17:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Then i don't know, maybe you should make it larger so everyone sees it. I mean the homepage is supercluttered and the only thing I ever notice the moment I enter the pager is the monthly featured article then get oonto any business I have with the site. Just a suggestion. Cobalt Mage 16:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Put the Shinra News on your watchlist. That'll solve the sight issue. Master Conjurer 02:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Website Goofs

Ok guys, we've seen the website, all excited about Dissidia, and then GOOFS.... Much like the "Zidaine", I've seen another : Onion BARTZ? Onion Knight's page but I can't see Sparkling Rain of Swords, instead Climbarrel i think.... Damn Their site is Buggy, they didn't maintain it much...

HAHAHAHAH maybe its the same crew that translated FFVII. :D

I never noticed, 'cause I always use the Chaos side, and it's working pretty well. Priorities, perhaps? Master Conjurer 00:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

How can that be possible? The vids for each character are not even working yet. Cluna 06 00:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Its the pics. Somewhat, the pics are teaser, and Onion Bartz does not tease me... DB36

The image is fake. The first Bartz screen shot is superimposed over the Onion Knight profile. I'm not sure how he did it but he (or she) did. I haven't actually seen any goof on the site. But that is just me.--Werefang 15:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not fake, to to OK's profile and click the screenshots. Drake Clawfang 15:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Chaos storyline?

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} Will there be a chaos storyline in the English version? hear me out. The Gamespy video features a cutscene with Garland, then you PLAY as garland, and finish the story. Maybe they cut and paste the parts, but why would they do that? Maybe you will be able to be the Chaos villains in story mode.

Devil Breaker - And I'm alone now, me and all I stood for. We're wandering now TALK - 14:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC) - All my fears turn to rage. It's a possibility, because SE is trying everything to make US Gamers feel good or even great about the game. Much like how MHFU's cool, and made even cooler in the US.

Werefang - "Monsters are real. Ghosts are real, too. They live inside us...and sometimes, they win." TALK - 15:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)- Abyss The shift from cutscene to game play was cut and pasted. Dissidia does not actually include a villain story in the Japanese release and SE has always been favoritive of the Japanese audiance when compared to other companies.

Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey" TALK - {{{time}}} Thats why we get extras and they don't? They aren't in favor of anyone. Except for another re-release like Dissidia:International. but still.

Henryacores - You don't need a reason to help people TALK - 10:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC) The video in question is actually the cutscene between Garland and Warrior of Light before Garland is fought on Destiny Odyessey I for the second time, with a gameplay showoff of Garland in the end. Nothing new, just easy Movie Maker

But it says things like "complete the game with all twenty characters" on its page. What does it mean by that? I dont get how it works at all. I need some video showing story gameplay, and unlocking the villians etc. N-E-V-F-X 13:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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Eric Ryan Jones, Master Black Mage — 17:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Heroes from games I-X plus villains from games I-X equal twenty characters. They're assuming we don't know about the two unlockables yet.

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[edit] KH Sequel?

It's interesting for someone to say that there could be a Dissidia sequel with Kingdom Hearts characters because Nomura just said in an interview that Dissidia was originally set to be a KH game.. But because Disney did not like the idea of their trademarked characters (Mickey, Donald, Goofey, etc.) fighting each other, it was set up for Final Fantasy instead. Yeah..

[edit] Combo Video

An exclusive combovideo was posted on Gametrailers, seen here. It features action and voices from the upcoming localized version, unfortunatly its has "THE MESSANGER" playing over the whole thing so its hard to get a good bead on the voices, but it does give a good look at translated move names, and the reblanced gameplay (some characters have been slowed while it seems other have been sped up)

P.S. also it looks like itd be a good time to archive.FinalFighterA+ 22:02, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

P.P.S. we know, there's a forum topic about this. Drake Clawfang 22:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Damn.FinalFighterA+ 22:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dissidia etymology

I'm a native speaker of portuguese and I must say that Dissidia reminds a lot more of Dissídio than Dissidente, and while Dissidente means "the one who causes conflict" (sort of, literally could be one in the conflict, not necessarily the causer), but Dissídio means the conflict itself! Also, I'm studying law school and I have small knowledge in latin, which, by the way, includes Dissidium (largely used in law terminology), meaning the conflict, not the conflictant people...

I know nothing about language, but I do know enough to recognize the influence Latin has had on many other languages. I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that other languages also have their own variations of the word. Drake Clawfang 17:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad 'e brought it up. I finally remembered to fix the etymology section according to the MoS. Eric Ryan Jones 17:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Attack Tables

Should they look like this?

-English Name-

-Japanese-

"-Fan Translation-"

or do we only include the English and Japanese, WITHOUT the Fan translation? --Silver Mage 03:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Once we have the official English names, the fan translations no longer matter. Eric Ryan Jones 09:03, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Then we add the fan-translations here but keep the Japanese right? If so, since there ARE new moves in the English version and they will soon be added to a new title in Japan called "Universal Tuning", do we note that too in the tables? (This also concerns all other tables concerning Dissidia) --Silver Mage 09:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Chaos' Factions

Kai - ...is going in! TALK - Ah... now? I've been thinking about this for a while: it appears that the Warriors of Chaos are somewhat divided in three factions: 1) The Destruction Faction (Cloud of Darkness; Exdeath; Kefka and Kuja): those who want to destroy everything. Their reasons differ but the objective is the same. 2) The Greed Faction (The Emperor; Ultimecia and Sephiroth): those with lust for power and control over others. 3) The Love/Family Faction (Golbez and Jecht): those who fight for their family members and loved ones. And Garland? Well... I'm not quite sure where he belongs... must likely in the "Destruction Faction". What you think?

ZEROX - Your life means nothing to me. TALK - How is Sephiroth involve with the greed faction? All he care about is defeating Cloud, and he not even a part of The Emperor and Ultimecia plans.

Kai - ...is going in! TALK - Ah... now? Well... Sephiroth wants to become a god and find another planet with jenova, right? Defeating Cloud is a way to achieve that. Even if he doesn't take part of the emperor and ultimecia's plan he is mostly motivated by greed and need to manipulate cloud don't you think?

ZEROX - Your life means nothing to me. TALK - Wont he be a part of the destruction faction sense his plans involve Jenova who is a plant destroyer? Also does this have anything to do with Dissidia, I know this is his plans in VII but does talk about in Dissidia?

Kai - ...is going in! TALK - Ah... now? Hmmmm... Maybe... I never pictured Sephiroth as a destroyer, he keeps tring to get more powerful. In Dissidia he seems simply obessed with Cloud (jeez!!) that is wanting to control somebody that's why I thought of him in the greed faction... I thought that the emperor and ultimecia saw his greed too, that was why they asked him to join them. That's only my opinion though.

ZEROX - Your life means nothing to me. TALK - I think he like Garland. He not really part of any faction, and he only does his own thing which is torment Cloud. And he may want to destroy everything, but he want to do it alone, he deosn't need the help of Cloud of Darkness, Exdeath, Kefka and Kuja same reson why he deosn't need the help of The Emperor and Ultimecia.

Silver Dragon XXVIII - Poor Dark Messenger, an awesome song forced to forever live in the shadow of its older brother, One-Winged Angel. TALK - 15:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC) Veni, vidi, vici. Power is a means, not an end. Yes, Sephiroth seeks power, but that is just to enable him to destroy stuff.

[edit] Possible Western Internet Play?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=633N0qgSn3E

As seen here in a video uploaded by our very own Drake Clawfang at about 3:44 they seem to be in a lobby that calls itself the "Online Lobby", what does everyone think? -- Dark Paladin Danny 21:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Saethori (T / C) — 07:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC) Believe in the future, and persist in the present, that's what I'll do! The Gametrailers review states outright "no internet play". So either they got a different preview copy than IGN did, or the "Online Lobby" is used exclusively for Ad-Hoc. As much as I'd like internet play, the latter seems more likely. (Though at least there's a way to convert Ad-Hoc to online.) (ADDENDUM 06:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)) And now GameSpot's review goes on to specifically mention the Online Lobby, and that its name is misleading, and that there is no internet play, directly confirming that the Online Lobby is used for Ad-Hoc.

[edit] English Voices

HarpieSiren - "There's not a thing I don't cherish!" TALK - {{{time}}} - It's not heavy. It's... a memento Screenshots of the credits of the official English version that was recently leaked

Saethori (T / C) — 07:01, 21 August 2009 (UTC) Believe in the future, and persist in the present, that's what I'll do! So, the only way we can get the information these few days early (and thus stop all the annoying anonymous edits) is to use something of debatable legality. Hm... conflicting.