Talk: Celestial Weapon

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i've caught the butterflies about tan times without touching the red ones and i still dont have the sigil what am i doing wrong?

Too early in the game? Opened the chest that appeared? Tried asking on a forum instead of a talk page for a Wiki?--Auron Kaizer 13:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ring of Fates

		AndresTiger - Derp Derp Derp Derp TALK - {{{time}}}
		I'm not sure this should be included here or not, but in Ring of Fates theres a weapon scroll called the Celestial Weapon.

Timing for the Sun Sigil

		TheSwordofDoubt - Xemnas may not be eternal, but his speeches definitely are. TALK - Nanoha ain't called "The White Devil" for no reason.
		I don't know, but I heard that to get the Sun Sigil, your time must be less than 0: 0.0, and that getting exactly 0: 0.0 doesn't count.

Ignores defence?

Can somebody 100% confirm this? Also, would armored enemies be a factor in the defense equation? TheMasterFighter 22:46, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Celestial weapons ignores defence. 100% certain. Although it doesn't bypass the armoured characteristic like Piercing weapons do. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 22:54, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. TheMasterFighter 23:26, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Gods or Planets

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		Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 23:48, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
		To avoid the edit war, let's move this here. The days of the weeks are NOT made for the early planets, and were named by the Anglo-Saxons after the Norse gods. Sunday - Sól's day Monday - Meili's day Tuesday - Týr's day Wednesday - Woden's (Odin's) day Thursday - Thor's day Friday - Freyr's day Saturday - Starkaðr's day They are NOT named for the planets, the fact that Saturday bears a resemblence to Saturn is a coincidence.

		Neo Bahamut - "SIT DOWN & DRINK YOUR GODDAMN TEA!" TALK - {{{time}}}
		It was a coincidence that occurred 3 times? With the corresponding Norse names not matching the word beyond the opening sound? Because according tothis page, those 3 are exceptions to the rule. Wikipedia backs this, as well.

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		Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 04:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
		Sól is written almost identically to the Latin word for "sun"; sol. That is where that corruption occurred. Meili is a bit of a funny one, but it may also be Móði. Tyr - tue. I see it very easily. Woden - wednes. Once more Thor's - thurs. Freyr - Fri Starkaðr - Satur. Originally they would have been referred to as "Tyr's Day", or "Thor's Day", but as time grow on, they were corrupted and contracted to as "Tuesday" and "Thursday". This can be seen in a good many number of Anglo-Saxon words that have entered our language. The Anglo-Saxon are were most of our language comes from, in particular the proper nouns. Many influences came from Latin and Greek (among others), but these entered the mixing pot later, well after things like days of the week would have been cemented into the system.

		Neo Bahamut - "SIT DOWN & DRINK YOUR GODDAMN TEA!" TALK - {{{time}}}
		...Or the corroborating sources may be correct, & "Sunday," Monday," & "Saturday" are exceptions to the rule.

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		Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 07:01, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
		I will admit that that is a possibility, but I firmly believe that the days of the week come from Norse Mythology.

I'm currently going through a playthrough of the HD remaster. The page claims that the Sun Crest can only be obtained after beating Dark Bahamut and can't be collected just after beating Yunalesca. This is wrong. I've just done it in the HD version. Anyone know where that piece of information came from?

124.168.102.121 18:25, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

That's indeed wrong, I'll go about changing this now. Tia-Lewise 18:28, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

That is not what the article says. It says that if missed you must face Dark Bahamut to get it later.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 18:29, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

And I was just about to say this myself having actually looked at the article xD Tia-Lewise 18:30, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

13 balloons and 1 bird hit?

Is it possible? with 13 balloons you'll get -39 seconds and one bird hit gives you +3 seconds so you have to finish the race in 36 seconds (likely impossible if you got hit by a bird which slow you down for 2 more seconds). 13-0, 14-1, 15-2... will be more believable.

This page needs fixing...

Don't feel like doing it myself right now, so here's the pointers for someone else to fix:

• Didn't actually spot this one but it's a common mistake so I'll mention it just in case: To get Break Damage Limit for an aeon, you must obtain the relevant weapon and power it up with the crest, but you do NOT need to also power it up with the sigil. Just the crest is enough.
• At least Tidus's and Wakka's mentions that it "ignores defence when fully powered". Actually, Celestial weapons ALWAYS ignore the enemy's defence (when using physical attacks - so it doesn't apply to overdrives), regardless of how far powered up they are. HOWEVER - Celestial weapons do NOT have Piercing effect.
• Another just in case one - the same is also true of the HP/MP modifiers; they apply no matter how powered up the weapon is or isn't.
• This is more an "extra info you can add" than a "needs to be corrected", but it might be worth mentioning that, aside from the impact of ignoring defence (which IS very significant, mind you), celestial weapons will never be more powerful than a normal weapon. At full HP/MP, they do the same damage as a normal weapon would if the enemy had 0 defence, and it only drops from there. HOWEVER - Auron is an exception to this. It does 100% damage at about 70% of his max HP, as he drops further than this, the weapon exceeds 100% damage, up to a maximum of 250%ISH (that is NOT an exact value, just approximate).

HayanNinja (talk) 10:14, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

I managed to dig up the formulas:

• Auron: (130 - [100 * Auron's current HP ÷ Auron's Max HP]) ÷ 60
• Others: (10 + [100 * User's current HP ÷ User's Max HP]) ÷ 110

For Yuna/Lulu, use MP instead of HP, but the formula is the same.

For Auron, this means:

• Full HP: 50% damage
• Full damage: At 70% of max HP
• Double damage: At 10% of max HP
• At 1 HP: 215% damage (give or take 0.1%)

For anyone else, full HP is 100% damage, 1 HP is about 9.1% damage.

HayanNinja (talk) 06:55, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

This should be useful. :)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 09:07, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Under 'Mechanics' after Masamune Damage is explained, the last sentence says "For anyone else, full HP is 100% damage, 1 HP is about 9.1% damage." With Yuna and Lulu it's MP instead of HP, as correctly stated further down, right? If I'm right, someone should probably edit it. Just trying to help!