From Final Fantasy Wiki
NOTICE REGARDING THE ARTICLE'S NAME - The topic of discussion, of whether or not the article shall be named Aeris Gainsborough or Aerith Gainsborough, has been one of frequent debate here. Currently, the last debate in July 2008 agreed to move the article to "Aerith", when previously it had been "Aeris". This is due to a new policy to use the most recent naming conventions and the title's expansion as the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII. However, a compromise has been made and kept even when the article was at "Aeris". When referring to the character in Final Fantasy VII, refer to her as "Aeris", as this was her name in that game. If referring to her in a game like Crisis Core or Kingdom Hearts, where her name is given as "Aerith", refer to her by that name. Simply put, refer to the character by whatever name the game you are adding information on calls her. Please keep all this in mind before moving the article, or making any changes between the names "Aeris" and "Aerith" in this or any other articles.
[edit] Cloti? Cleris?
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| Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey"
TALK - {{{time}}}
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| What's up with people merging names to signify a relationship? Thats just weird. It could never work with my name...haha!!!Anyways, I think that Zack and Aerith works better. And cloud can have Tifa. I mean, leave the dead people be!!!
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| Judge Zarbi - is back.
TALK - But different! {{{time}}}
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| Ooh, you're getting into necrophilia now?
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| —W/B
I'm a Clessie and Clopris kinda person.
I think it's stupid too.
Necrophilia- it's a weird matter. Look it up if you dare.
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| BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
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| Why so much interesting in this tired old debate? Am I the only one who supports Arlus? Arc and Prince Alus? Come on! In FFIII, they were still close to kissing just before Gilgameth walked in.
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| Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey"
TALK - {{{time}}}
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| no, im not sexually attracted to dead people. She is not dead, she just wanders the lifestream, being as hot as she wants to be :P
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| BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
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| I know this one might be a bit out of date, but is anyone else a Obilary Fan? Tell me you didn't see the sexual tension during the Hilary-Obama debates! Tell me!
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| Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey"
TALK - {{{time}}}
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| YEAH!!!HILARY OBAMA! i saw that XDD bluehighwind, we might have just become friends.
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| Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim.
TALK - 20:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| To start, Cloud loves Aeris. "Search your feelings, you know it to be true", as they say, and I'll debate this with anyone who wants to refute this.
As for her being dead, pft, death means little in the Final Fantasy series in terms of progression of plot, especially in VII where Aeris is just one of a handful of main characters to "die" and still be featured in the series.
And if there is a God, he will not let Obama into office after all the shit and controversy that has been dug up over him. McCain may be running for Bush's 3rd term, but the problem is that 4/5s of the American public are idiots and will vote for him anyway.
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| Squallinoa_08 - "We may never meet again, but we'll never forget each other."
TALK - IDK {{{time}}}
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| won't it be funny if Tidus and Yuna called their child "Tina"? you, "Ti" from Tidus and "na" from Yuna? and plus in the Japanese version of VI, Terra's name was Tina. well anyways, Zack's right. Zack should stay with Aerith, and Cloud should stay with Tifa. besides, Zaerith's relatonship is stronger than CloTi.
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| Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks
TALK - 20:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| The ampersand weeps as all these damn shippers ignore him.
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| Zack fair 007 - "Let's mosey"
TALK - {{{time}}}
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| Thank you squallina_08. finally someone agrees!!!
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| Gamer2127:
TALK - {{{time}}}
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| Ampersands aren't all they're hyped up to be. I could type and faster than I could push shift, then find the number that has Ampersand on it (I think it's 8)
Wait, nope, I just checked...7? &! HAHA
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| BlueHighwind Q?
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
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| Anybody else notice that this page is 51 Kilobytes long? Shouldn't we archive this?
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| Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim.
TALK - 20:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| I fail to see how Aeris' relationship with Zack affects Cloud's with Tifa. Either way, Cleris is sill stonger than either of them.
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| —W/B
Nah, Clessie or Clopris.
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| Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks
TALK - 20:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| Another reason I hate this combining name shit: I have no idea who ILHI is refering to. Cloud and... Who?
Anyway, the official sources say Aeris gets Zack while Cloud gets Tifa. The fact the first pair are together in the afterlife while the second pair are alive and live together makes my mind boggle at anyone saying otherwise.
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| Some Color Mage / Talk Contribs / Why have a complex evil plan, when all you have to do is give the hyper kids red cordial? / No time. I don't really care.
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| DAMNED EDIT CONFLICTS!!!!
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| So no love for the Clon Cloneo option?
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| Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim.
TALK - 20:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| Um, the official sources have never said anything like that. In fact, I'd be happy to point out the official sources showing repeatedly that Cloud loves Aeris. Please, ask me. I have a link to a Cleris site that says it all but I'd like to say it myself.
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TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
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| Doesn't the Gold Saucer date decide who goes with who? If you want Aeris, Cloud goes with Aeris. If you want Tifa, Cloud does with Tifa. Done. Every person can decide for themselves in their own game.
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| Squallinoa_08 - "We may never meet again, but we'll never forget each other."
TALK - IDK {{{time}}}
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| Ok, can we stop this! This is the only reason why some of the fangirls and fanboys hate Aerith because they think she's a boyfriend stealer.
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| —W/B
I wanted Cait Sith ;_;. There was just no way.
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| Drake Clawfang - You've got guts. I like that in a victim.
TALK - 20:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| EDIT CONFLICT - True, BlueHighwind. In VII players can choose to date anyone they want. However, not only is Aeris the default date, but official sources have recognized her as Cloud's "canon" date, and not Tifa. So essentially, while the date subquest is for fun, the creators acknowledge Aeris as the one Cloud officially dates.
Yeah. Come on, I got more! I'm willing to let this die but I got more if someone wants to argue with me!
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| Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks
TALK - 20:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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| No, this shit ends right here. This is for discussion of the article, take the bickering elsewhere.
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| —W/B
This was an argument? I thought everytime people joined names to signify a relationship, it was just a joke conversation.
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| Squallinoa_08 - "We may never meet again, but we'll never forget each other."
TALK - IDK {{{time}}}
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| Umm... ILHI, what does Cait Sith has to do with this? And it's true what both Drake and BH are saying. Aerith is the default date. However, I think if you talk crap about Aerith and nice things to Tifa, you get the date with Tifa, right?
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{{ILHI|21:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)|I'm just speaking in general "Who Cloud should be with" terms.
CloTi! all the way. the only reason i think Cloud ever had feelings for Aerith was becasue he had Zack's memoriesKaospyri 22:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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| FFfangirl - "Embrace you dreams. If you want to be a hero you need to have dreams...and honor."
TALK - 11:26 a.m., July 30, 2009
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| I have found a site devoted to the Clerith relationship. It analyzes titles in the Compilation and On the Way To A Smile to show that Cloud has deeper feelings for Aerith than Tifa. It even makes several points about Tifa being jealous of Aerith's relationship with Cloud. Here's the link: Devotion: Cloud and Aerith's Love. On another note, I personally think that Zack and Tifa could be a couple since they knew each other since the time of the Nibelheim Incident and that Zack is deeply connected with both Cloud and Aerith.
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Light of the night [11:18pm, September 12, 2009] : Um..actually speaking, to drake clawfang in particular,there is official evidence saying that Cloud loves Tifa in the ff7 10th anniversary version ultimania :
"With the support of former allies and Tifa, an important woman to him and now also part of his family, Cloud regains the courage to move forward."
"She and Cloud came to realize their feelings for each other in the end of the story, and live together in AC and DC.
Because he contracted Geostigma, he left Tifa and the children, and began living in the Slum church.
The more he realizes how happy he is living with Tifa and the children, the more the fear of losing that and regrets toward the past trouble Cloud…
"A Promise to Tifa, Etched in his Memory.
it seems that the idea that he must keep this vow was forever in Cloud’s mind.
In BC he is obsessive about protecting people, and if he runs out of strength part way though he will mention the “promise.”
[BC] If he runs out of strength part way through the story, he will say regretfully that he “couldn’t come through on my promise to her.”
"The happier he is now,
The more Cloud is tormented by painful “memories” of the past.
Amidst the course of him trying to ascertain his memories, they became aware of the thoughts/feelings which each other was holding."
"Following this, the pair experience many hardships, such as the Nibelheim incident which also appears in CC, and the Jenova War in FFVII, and through these the distance between them shortens."
But then again, I'm not denying he loved Aerith,(in my logic) but I think he has moved on. And I'm sorry if I sparked up any anger or anything.
[edit] Following the Forum
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| Ser Blue says at 04:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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| The article is now named Aerith Gainsborough following her expanded role in the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII, and to reflect the decision in the Forum thread. Again, let me emphasize the reasoning of the article naming: to reflect her role in the entire Compilation of Final Fantasy VII. Also, the article still follows the compromise, where areas talking about Final Fantasy VII uses the name Aeris.
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[edit] Nice job
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| Leon5550 - You tried to kill a man and then calls him "monster"? Such crude behavior!
TALK - {{{time}}}
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| Nice job Squeenix, u cant make up ur mind fr 2 letter at the end of some chick's name and look the mess u made here. This girl's (I aint sayin d name till its decided) got some attention theese past few days (more than Cloud's).
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[edit] I dunno
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| crntn - Final Fantasy VI: Advent Children - General Leo didn't die, Gogo saved him at the last moment!
TALK - 22:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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| I don't see why later games which either have nothing to do with Final Fantasy 7 or are tacked on spin-offs somehow invalidate the original content of the game. Making this even crazier is the fact it's just a 'th/s' issue, the names are pretty much the same damn thing and it's not really a "translation error". Everyone is in arms over spelling, when its pronunciation that matters here I think.
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| Aashleyandbrian - Iwant a vacation or i'm gonna go crazy
TALK - This clock is useless=] 18:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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| Wow , what a conversation , what is everyone up to today i hope you all are doing good.
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| FëasindeTalk "In this spheric universe, love is inverse."
19:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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| @Crntn: ...when its pronunciation that matters here I think.(sic)
Do you have a lisp or something? "th" and "s" are two very different sounds, and you're saying that what matters the most is pronounciation.
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[edit] Revamp
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| Sora G. Strife -
Everything written is meant to be read.
Everything read is meant to be known.
Everything known is meant to be understood.
Everything understood is meant to be acted upon.
TALK - 13:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
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| Yo, Drake C. I saw a comment on BlueHighwind's page that you needed help revamping to make all non-flashbacks present tense (cause Bluer said so)? Can I help?
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[edit] Age thing...
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| Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - 01:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| I went ahead and edited in what her age was at the start of FF7 and when she died
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| BlueHighwind Q? 02:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
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| Wait, why is Aeris a year older by her death in FFVII? Her birthday never occurs during the game itself.
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| Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - 02:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| When does Cloud's birthdays occur, or Zack's in FFVII:CC? It's not mentioned in the game, but if you take the chronilogical order of things, that should be the correct things. She was 16 when she met Zack. Zack died 4 years later when she was 20. FFVII takes place starting roughly a year or so after Zack's death. By that time, Aerith is 21. She dies when she's 22.
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| BlueHighwind Q? 02:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
TALK - I Am Vengeance. I Am the Knight. I Am Batman! ツ:
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| No it doesn't. As far as I can tell, Cloud wanders into Midgar in a daze shortly after Zack dies, and then the attack on the first Reactor begins. And even then, any chronology between the events of Midgar and her death is pure speculation. A year is an especially suspect assumption.
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| Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - 02:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| True, it is all due to speculation. They simply had her age as 22 for FFVII, I just tried to clean it up a bit. And I can about guarrantee that her starting and dying ages for FFVII were different. Now, when it comes to end of FFVII:CC and start of FFVII, I kinda read into it and saw that Cloud had generated a whole new persona and had started working as a mercenary. It's not like he walks in and the attack happens. I know that he starts hiring himself out for merc work before the attack. That's why I gave it approx a year, making her 21, and then used what they had, 22, as her death date.
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| Deadlyslashsword - +It takes disaster to learn a lesson, but you're going to make it through the darkest nights+
TALK - 02:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC) - Am I too late...to be saved?
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| I'm changing it back to 21. Both Cloud and Tifa aged five years between the Nibelhiem Incident (You see Aerith for the last time right before this happens in CC), so why shouldn't Aerith. Consistency, people.
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| Sandrius Draclau - Sith Lord
TALK - 03:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| I had changed it to 21 for FFVII and 22 for her death. I was thinking that was the right age. I'm just glad I didn't have it too screwed up. Thank you :) Oh and as for the official site saying 22, are you sure that's not her year of death in the game?
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| Oranejo - rabble, rabble, rabble
TALK - 04:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| The BradyGames Crisis Core book lists Aeris' age as 16-22, so I am guessing she is 22 at the start of the original game. (It also lists Cloud as 15-21, and Zack 16-23) However, the book may not be the most reliable considering it contradicts Cloud's height with the manual in VII. (The BG Crisis Core book has him as 5'8", while the original VII's official site and game manual list him as 5'7").
VII never makes any indication that the characters ages have changed or how much time passes from start to finish either though, so if the official site lists her age as 22 she is most likely 22 throughout the entire game.
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| Borny☺ Talk · Contribs · Blog 00:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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| My assumption is that from the beginning of Crisis Core (when Aerith is 16) and when Zack and Cloud get experimented on, happens in about a year.
FFVII didn't start a year after Zack died, because in the ending of CC, Cloud is seen dragging the Buster Sword and headed towards Midgar, where he eventually meets back up with Tifa, which probably took just a few days.
So yeah, I'm still wondering if the experiments took either four or five years. CC says four, but when did Aerith turn 22 then? =/
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Ok this is kind of a survival issue thing ok Aerith died after being stabbed in the stomach by sephiroth but Cloud was stabbed twice in the stomach by sephiroth when Nebelheim was burned down and Cloud survived
18:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC) Kaospyri 18:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, but Aerith is (mostly) human whereas Cloud is a SOLDIER.
- Cloud was wearing body armor and is a trained soldier (the regular kind), Aerith is a flower girl wearing a dress. It's also shown in Last Order that Cloud's willpower alone was what let him survive the stabbing and hurl Sephiroth into the reactor. That's not to say that Cloud was ok, since he was severely harmed by the stab and it was Zack who pretty much had to help him from there on out. Diablocon 18:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
armor isn't a factor SOLDIER's dont have armor bodies only there sholders and legs...(retarded choice of armor) but your right with the training and by the way Zack had to help Cloud due to Mako Poisoning (I feel smart)Kaospyri 06:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Development
Where are people getting these development stories from? the whole "aerith falling in love with Sephiroth and then finding out he's her brother" sounds completely made up, but if there's a source then...well it should be linked. Earisu 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's from the Ultimania Guides, and we don't link sources. Drake Clawfang 04:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Aerith's English Voice Actors
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| FFfangirl - "Embrace you dreams. If you want to be a hero you need to have dreams...and honor."
TALK - 11:51 a.m., July 8, 2009
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| Out of the three VAs Aerith has had, I think that Andrea Bowen is the best. Mandy Moore was alright, but Mena Suvari was a disgrace. What are your opinions?
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- Tie. Mandy Moore and Andrea Bowen. Mena Suvari didn't......not suck. --Zack fair 007 21:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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| RedVII - "Just as his name implies, he is an animal with fire-red fur. But under his fierce exterior is an intelligence surpassing that of any human's..."
TALK - 5:29
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| I also think Andrea Bowen was the best.
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| FFfangirl - "Embrace you dreams. If you want to be a hero you need to have dreams...and honor."
TALK - 3:57 p.m., August 18, 2009
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| I've even read a lot of reviews for Crisis Core and Advent Children Complete that say that Andrea Bowen did the best job as Aerith, since her voice gave Aerith a personality.
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| RedVII - "Just as his name implies, he is an animal with fire-red fur. But under his fierce exterior is an intelligence surpassing that of any human's..."
TALK - 5:29
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| She did have a very Aeris peronality type voice. Where did you read that ?
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[edit] Etimology
I don't believe the part in that section that says Aerith is supposed to sound like Earth is accurate. In japanese, earth is pronounced aasu and Aerith/Aeris is pronounced Earisu. They don't sound much like each other.Cid of the Lufaine 13:10, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, and it was originally translated as "Aeris", because it was similar to the Japanese for Earth. But this "sounding like Earth" thing wasn't noticed by the translators. So when SE did the translations for the other games, they changed it to "Aerith" (the Jap for Aerith can be translated as either) to be closer to the English of "Earth".
- That's all BS, but it might be true. ILHI (W/B) 23:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia, the "earth" bit is taken from Famitsu magazine. Drake Clawfang 23:37, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Hey guys
I am new here so I am wondering if it was Aeris or Aerith? Because you know I always knew my baby girl to be Aeris.--PurpleHighwind 14:54, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
A can of worms, you have opened here. The short answer is "it's both, but more recently Aerith". -- 
Saethori (T / C) - 20:33, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Saethori (T / C) - 20:33, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
