Nice one! I thought you'd never get to edit this, but it could still use a tip that you should Categorize the image. And it's awful long now, but whatever I guess :P --Auron Kaizer 23:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


This thingEdit

Firstly, the most blatant thing wrong with this is repeated mention of hentai. Four things wrong with this-- this is unprofessional, the use of bullets in a numbered system/the fact that it has no relevance to the numbered point above it doesn't make sense, the obsessiveness with hentai when other adult-orientated and shock images should be treated the same, and the fact it's probably not worth mentioning it--instead just a link to the policy.

Picking up from the fourth point, the text is only supposed to be a short set of instructions. Bearing in mind the original just said "Use the form below to upload files. See also Help:Uploading files."

This suggests that naming a file "Kuja.jpg" is a good name for a file. I would disagree. That file name tells you it is a picture of Kuja, yes. But the filename should be descriptive. Since each image should serve a unique purpose, it should be better named. So when dealing with enemies, the enemy's game should be included since most of the time they appear in multiple games. When dealing with artwork, "artwork" should be used in the title to differentiate it from the in-game image. Since "Kuja" could refer to any image of Kuja, it should be named better so that just by the name you can tell what image/kind of image it is. I admit naming a files "Kuja-fmv1", "Kuja-fmv2" is a better compromise without going to an overly long filename.

Besides, if we told everyone that the subject and file extension is fine for an image, then there'd always be an image in that place and other images would just start using ridiculous names, or people may upload existing images, as has happened in the past.

The form says to include it in a page you use "Image:blah", File is the new extension. Media also isn't an extension we need to use anymore (did we in the first place?).

I'm thinking something more along the lines of:

  • Click the "Browse..." button and search for the file in your computer.
  • Choose a sensible "Destination filename". It is important that you give the file a name that is descriptive. For example, an image of Kuja should have Kuja in its filename, and not be called "19423-432.jpg".
  • Fill the "Summary" field with the appropriate file category. A short description of the file, and the source if applicable, is encouraged but not required. To locate the appropriate category, visit Category:Content and Media and look in the appropriate categories to find the best-fitting sub-category.
  • Select the licensing as appropriate.
  • Press the "Upload file" button to finish the upload.

To include the image in a page, use a link in the form [[File:File.fmt]].

The important notice should be kept. On the licensing line there should be a link to a project or help page regarding licenses, but I don't think the wiki has one so I couldn't suggest it. JBed 23:01, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose entirely because I hate professionalism. ----BlueHighwind 23:04, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
It's perfectly fine as it is. - Henryacores^ 23:11, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
That's nice. From what you've said, I understand your position entirely.
It really isn't perfectly fine as it is. And I gave reasons for it. If you don't respond to my reasons, the reason against having it the way it is seems extremely weak. JBed 23:16, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
The thing is, your proposal omits useful information that the page holds. The only issues with it was the lack of information of the detail of file descriptions and the fact that file linking examples were severely outdated: issues I hastily fixed. And there is nothing wrong with the mentioning of Hentai prohibition but the omission of the same prohibition for pornographic or shock content.
This page isn't long enough to be removing things and should hold the most information as possible as long as it doesn't go overboard. That's why we have the policy pages. - Henryacores^ 23:33, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
The repetition of the same phrase three times is unprofessional. CSM had an extremely weird thing against hentai. he was mad. If anyone else had written this project page, there wouldn't be the repetition that there is.
And I personally think it does go overboard, it's really a matter of opinion. But whatever. I may suggest that the two bullets on categorising would be better summarising by directing a user to the Category:Content and Media and category and finding the appropriate category. Not only is it shorter, but it simply encompasses videos, images, and audio, and is far more useful to find the correct category. The current state just suggests categorising by the game its in (doesn't even say the images category of the game its in). In most cases there are a better sub-cats within them categories.
The final comment is also incorrect. Incorrectly named files will be moved. Incorrectly categorised (should be changed to "categorize" on the page) will be re-categorised, and in most cases incorrect licenses will be changed. The only reason for deletion would be the lack of use of the image, or if it doesn't come under any of our licenses.
MediaWiki:Multipleupload-text also needs to be changed. JBed 23:55, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and including the way to add an audio file is redundant since it's the same as for an image. The only reason it was displayed for was because we apparently used a different namespace. Furthermore, it would be better if the file links said "File:File.fmt", just to serve a more universal purpose. JBed 13:55, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can we please do something about the fact it's too easy to upload images in Oasis? I uploaded almost 10 images to this wiki before realizing I had to categorize, etc. them. That was before I switched to Monobook, and I think it has to do with all the rubbish, uncategorized, and unused/useless to mainspace images out there...C A T U S E23:50, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, we cannot. You can still license them apparently. You just have to categorise them after. JBed 23:55, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
Well that stinks. Thing is, I didn't realize I had to licsence them (because it didn't give the warning about deletion) so I didn't. Anyways, I went back and fixed everything once I realized how I'd goofed. I just wish there was some way to keep newbies from goofing up, although I guess it would help if people (including myself, three months ago) would read the welcome template.C A T U S E00:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)