This is where the divinities for the Twilight Crystal fanfic are. It is actually pure fanservice, but who knows? Maybe a writer will write a divine intervention in the story. These are the gods of the immaterial things, not of the elements (We have the Eons for that). Since the two countries have fought for a millennium, I'm sure their culture have fused to a point that they have the same religion. For each type of god(dess), there will be Final Fantasy characters who will be nominated to be the god (e.g: Auron, the god of war.) You can put another character for the role, but be logical, dont put Yuffie as the goddess of terror (Actually, that's pretty logical.) If there is a tie, both characters will be the different version of that god (Like Athena and Ares) A character can be a god of multiple thins if he/she have been nominated twice (e.g: Gabranth the god of metal and the asthmatics)
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This is so we wont have to go " I am the servant of Zuraktheliathiruilth, god of thunder!!!" And from what we've learnt, the Noireans are one of the best things of ES (After Leon >.>) With this, we can have an even more profound religion.
Leon5550 05:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Before anything, there was nothing, chaos. Out of nothingness, a being of unmatched powers emerged, and after eons of solitude, the being instinctively split in three in order to quench it's boredom. The division killed the being.
Out of it's corpse, three beings emerged, named Auron, Minwu and Aerith. Auron, the most impulsive of the three, enforces changes. But since he is an unstoppable force, he needs the help of Aerith to stop himself. After countless changes they created the stars, the moon, and the sun. Minwu, the more solitary one, decided to stay on his own. After years of solitude, he created a patch of dirt to play with. He shaped it, creating mountains, cliffs, hills and other terrains. Bored of the single colour, he created water, forests, deserts and the sky. Eventually bored of this, he created living beings to live in his world, one where he is their master, and so does animals are created.
Meanwhile, Auron found a way to stop Aerith from stopping him. With his blade he cut Aerith and from her blood was born Kefka. Kefka fuels Auron with the power to defeat Aerith, in return, she created a being to protect her, from her hair was born Basch. Kefka, fearing Basch's powers, hided behind Auron, manipulating him. As Auron landed a strike with his sword to Basch, this one grabbed the sword and held it for centuries. After a thousand years of struggling, Bach broke a sweat, and from this sweat was born Yang. With Yang's help, Basch smote Kefka out of Auron.
Aerith then feels something for Basch, something alien to the beings. This feeling gave birth to Squall and Cloud, and they, in turn, gave birth to Balthier. Auron, still very weak, fell on Minwu's playground. Kefka, fearing for his most prized toy, grabbed Auron, but he seems to be too weak and fell himself. They both landed on a small settlement of a very primitive, fragile race, known as humans. The moment they landed was the moment mankind discovered fire. Aerith, knowing only she could stop Auron's changes, goes into the mortal realm herself, dragging Squall, Cloud and Balthier with her. Thus, mankind discovered passion, emotions, and love. Basch then appointed Yang to protect Aerith. As Yang entered the realm, the first war on fire was won. Basch, now lonely and in need of someone to protect. He cut himself in the forehead and from the blood was born Ashe. But this being seemed to be curious, and out of her curiosity, she jumped into the realm. And thus mankind had it's first tribes and leaders. Basch finally decided to enter himself, and so the code of honours was created among men.
Minwu, seems fascinated by this beings, the humans. Beings with imaginations, powers, emotions. He decided to enter as well. And so thus the first shamans were born. The creatures of the plane, now lacking any masters, lived by pure instincts, or like the humans, developed free will. Little did the gods know, that the moment they enter the mortal realm, they die.
Ah, but we forgot about Cid, the god of the sky. He is not, technically a god like the others, but Minwu's finest creation, the first being in the mortal realm. Cid was given the gift of great intelligence, immortality, the power to command thunders and lightnings, and most of all, free will. Minwu realized Cid's destructive potentials, it is why he was the only one of his kind.
Through the years, mankind have misinterpreted, exaggerated, and even lied about the gods. Mankind still thought that their gods still live among them, and created the thing we called "Religions".
I don't think Vivi should be the god of Magic. Because he just don't look like a god. Edea, Terra and Minwu are perfect to be God(dess) of Magic. But Vivi is just a little Black Mage what so godly about that. Also he too damn overrated, everyone going to pick him while Edea, Terra or Minwu are left in the cold, miss their chance being the God(dess) of Magic. Beside I think we should choose our own God(dess) to represent us instead of vote. So we have their favorite character as their god(dess) and everyone will be happy and you'll all wont see me go berserk just because Terra is not the Goddess of Magic. Trust me that will happen. NeoZEROX 06:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
The only Reason Vivi wouldn't fit as God of Magic is because he only uses Black Magic unlike the other choices. And not all Deities have imposing intimidating appearances. Not to be rude but that just sounded like an uncalled insult. AnonyMan 07:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
What did I say....? Never mind. Vivi is the epitome of Final Fantasy magic. And it's a religion, so everyone (mostly) will have the same thing, you dont see people having different names for Jesus. Like a real religion, it's based on the majority. I also want to add it's like the Ancient Greece religion, each God/dess have their own sect, so if you worship the god of war, you dont have to worship the god of magic. This gives a great potential for religious rifts between the characters, some could be a devout, a casual or an atheist. I suggests that the atheists are shunned, but not persecuted. So you might want to add that "Religion" category in your character's and NPC's profile. But here is the real question:
Should we keep this religious thing, or should we roll the fic without it?
Well I hate to sound like selfish little asshole, but my character is mostly Magic base so more and likely she will worship God/dess of Magic, and I don't want see Vivi's name as the God of Maigc. See Terra lose will make me mad, but see her lose to a IX character will really piss me off. Did you forget how bad of a Terra fan I am. Do you remember ES, a character name Terra Angelheart. NeoZEROX 07:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
No, I get it. You love Terra and I guess you very much hate FFIX based on that comment. Still taking jabs for inane reasons like that just a wee bit ridikalus. AnonyMan 07:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm just crazy about thing with Terra, that way I destory ES (on accident) because it. Please forgive me. NeoZEROX 07:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey, nothing wrong with really digging a character. Lots of people do, me included. Just trying to keep things civil. AnonyMan 07:30, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Although it would leave Terra open to possible criticism and insults if she is chosen. Armageddon11! 12:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Why are we use real character to play role of these god/dess, instead of using actual FF god/dess like Cosmos, Yevon and Minerva? Should we use them instead of real character so I don't get so upset just because Cloud or Terra are not god/desses. NeoZEROX 14:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Because it would make it less fanservice. Besides, Final Fantasy isnt known for Cosmos and all, so we'll use it's most famous characters to be the gods. As in the gods' stories, we'll stick to their original tale, to simplify things. For seriousness, I suggest we replace god of flair to god love or romance and remove god(dess) of emotions. I like the religion idea, but I dont know if the fanfic's ready for this kind of thing. I say we remove the the idea. User: Leon5550 08:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
If you want to replace god of flair, I suggest romance, I don't see pimp like Balthier as god of love. Love doesn't just mean romance, people express love in different way like mother's love for her children. A more perfect role for the god/dess of love is Terra, because is the only character that express her love with children and not a love interest. And beside Cynthia will worship any of these god that you put. She'll worship the Goddess of Love Terra and the God of Dreams Cloud. But I do agreed we should remove the idea it server no purpose. NeoZEROX 13:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
My character is an athiest so I could go either way really. But a foil between Max and religious fanaticism might prove interesting, if you choose to do that.--Werefang 13:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
All I'm saying is, if my character is going to worship a famous character as god, they are going to be my favorite characters and that Cloud and Terra. NeoZEROX 18:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
ZEROX, you shouldn't scrap the whole idea simply because you don't like Vivi. I don't think Leon intended this religion to be a "everyone customizes their own belief" thing, like Eons. It's meant to play a crucial role in the story and unite thousands of people, not just your character. It shouldn't matter if Minwu is the god of magic instead of Terra. I'm not going to throw a tantrum if Aerith is chosen over Garnet. The concept may still exist even if some users choose to remain, in a way, atheist. 8bit 03:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I just don't like idea that Terra is not a Goddess. She doesn't have to be the Goddess of Magic, maybe the Goddess of Love and if you played VI you understand why love. I just want two god/desses for Cynthia to worship is Cloud and Terra. And if I can't have that the she be atheist then. NeoZEROX 03:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I have the idea of a few more God(dess)es if that alright with you guys. And I think the god(dess) of violence should be change to god(dess) of destruction. NeoZEROX 06:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
How can characters be up for more than one nomination as a god? Garnet cannot be a candidate for two deities. And you have quite blatantly put Terra in an extra two goddess slots.
I propose we go back to the time when Leon first introduced this topic as a religion, not popular polytheism. Of course this is a popularity contest. But it should not devolve to the point where more entities are created simply so a user's favorite character can be a god. We should take out all positions with duplicate characters in them, and simplify this whole matter. Weed out superfluous slots and return to the original ten-god proposal. This was not meant to satisfy individual cravings, it was meant to unify the story. 8bit 20:39, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I want to use real FF God/dess, so it wont be popular polytheism. But no, Leon think their not famous enough to be god/dess. I think we should use real FF God/dess like Cosmos and Yevon or at lest make Terra a Goddess because that only character (beside Cloud) I want to worship. NeoZEROX 20:52, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Can you not see the fallacy in your argument?
I think we should... at lest [sic] make Terra a Goddess
...because that [sic] only character (beside [sic] Cloud) I want to worship.
ZEROX, this isn't all about you. I'm sorry for being blunt, but if the editors as whole vote not to have Terra OR Cloud as deities, then that is what we choose, and giving your favorite characters more than one shot at a prize for your own sake is self-centered. 8bit 20:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
And this why I want to real FF God/dess so my fanaticism of these of these two characters wont get in the way. Why is it so hard to use real god/dess to worship instead. But no you guys want to use famous characters as the god/desses! I was perfectly fine without these god/dess. NeoZEROX 21:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Edit: I decide not to be part of this Divinities thing, I all I'm doing is causing trouble. I deleted all my votes and god/dess I put. Sorry for all the trouble I cause. NeoZEROX 21:36, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I did it, if you have a better idea, feel free. Leon5550 09:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
so they entered the human relm after the struggle between Auron and Aerith Daiton 14:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
It's excellent, Leon! The whole creation story is really cool, although Squall and Cloud conceiving Balthier is somewhat... odd. But they're deities, I suppose, hmm? So, now, are there certain sects that worship certain gods? 8bit 15:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The Squall-Cloud-Balthier thing is like those weird, deities thing, like Athena born out of Zeus' skull. For the sects, my idea is that each sect over exaggerates their god (gods, in Squall-Cloud case) e.g, the Basch's sect says that Basch actually beat the crap out of Auron alone, Auron's sect have it that he beat the crap out of Basch, ect. Also, the humans dont know the gods are actually dead, so they thought they are here, controlling everything. It's pretty much like the Greek pantheon. Also some sect are bigger than others, I say Auron, Minwu, Aerith and Basch's sects are the most prominent, while Yang, Balthier and the other's are less famous. Ashe's sect, tho, is a more private sect since she's nearly only worshiped by nobles. Feel free to add new ideas. Leon5550 06:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)