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LightningItadaki
L C - I am an ocean, I am the sea. There is a world inside of me.
TALK - 02:05, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
It is with a very heavy heart that I have to announce that Nobuo Uematsu confirmed today that the Black Mages have disbanded.
http://www.squareenixmusic.com/musicnews2.php?subaction=showfull&id=1281190773&archive&start_from&ucat=2&
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One good thing after another leaving SE; first Uetmatsu, now the BM. Great.
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Coeur du Lion Bleu - "Be careful, dear friend, lest you fall into the endless ocean of stars..." - 水風死
TALK - 02:20, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Well, this really stinks...
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NeoZEROX - Magicite Every time a petal falls a young life is taken by lady Death hands... Magicite
TALK - 02:27, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :"(
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KujaRhapsodos - You don't need a reason to help people.
TALK - 02:35, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
And I thought they were making a fourth album... We'll miss this great band.
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Cloudy Krystal - Theatrhythm cloud "When prayers turn to promises, not even fate can stand in our way." Theatrhythm cloud
TALK - 02:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC) - "Wouldn't wanna be you!"
It's just like all the good TV shows that are gone too soon ...
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Ser Blue says at 02:50, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be reported in the Shinra News?
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Pikmin Master - Cordelia! Do we have a third child?
TALK - 02:57, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
And I was just listening to their music...But this was not the first time. One day, my bro listened to some Michael Jackson music and guess what? He dies.


Now hang on, it says he is still going to be doing arrangements. Just with different musicians due to all of to schedule conflicts, its still going to be Uematsu running the show. Exdeath64 05:54, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

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Adonzo - I don't claim to have a degree in doctorology
TALK - 06:26, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Dancing Mad - Distant Worlds II version

Uematsu's already got another band going, the Earthbound Papas (odd name, but Uematsu's an odd guy). They were involved in the Distant Worlds II arrangement of Dancing Mad.
LightningItadaki
L C - I am an ocean, I am the sea. There is a world inside of me.
TALK - 07:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Let's just hope that this Earthbound Papas can kick epic ass.
And yeah, Shinra News please.
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OavatosDK --- 08:14, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Here's to hoping Mother Potatoes is great!

(Earthbound= Mother, Papas in spanish is Potatoes.

Take a melody, simple as can be...Exdeath64 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Rejoice. I don't think my ears could stand another FF soundtrack bludgeoned to death with the Black Mages' sledgehammer of noise. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 18:58, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't much like most of their arrangements either. It's the same thing as with Uematsu's (bad) orchestra versions. It's like he misses the point of an arrangement. It isn't to add as much stuff as you possibly can into a song, as many different instruments going off at the same time, it just becomes a mess. One should try to capture the feel of the song, try to show a different side of it. I think it's a good thing Square has moved on from Uematsu and FFXII and FFXIII composers are much better.(Some of the piano arrangements I do like, but I don't know if they were arranged by Nobuo. If they were, good job!)Keltainentoukokuu 19:14, August 8, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

Kupohunter - "I'm sharpening my knife,kupo."
TALK - Whenever
Don't diss the Black Mages, kupos. Sure they weren't gods and I've never been a fan of their kind of genre. The songs were decent, with some better than others. I espicially liked Fight On! and Maybe I'm A Lion. At least this might mean Uematsu will have more time to do other music stuff. Maybe he'll do more video games. He technically 'retired' or something like that for Final Fantasy games, but that doesn't mean he can't stop making music. Actually, all of the new music on Super Smash Bros. Brawl was actually composed by him.
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FëasindëTalk "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me."
22:15, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The people that think the Mages were not "good" are basically the people that do not know too much about music or that have been constantly fed with today's western media of mainstream music.

Keyboardists like Kenichiro Fukui and guitarists like Tsuyoshi Sekito and Michio Okamiya are the kind of talented musicians with musical knowledge and skill that far surpass any number of mainstream musicians, that simply fly above the average listener's head; because this average user has only extremely vague ideas on what constitutes "good" music: he may think of "good" music as either a simple melody or, at worst, a catchy tune. Whenever something more complex than a pop song, a hip-hop song or any kind of mellow song hits his senses, he immediately cows and cries foul.

A person that cannot appreciate a greater form of complexity is simply ignorant.

There's a difference between not liking something and not believing something is good. People that believe, and acknowledge, that they find no distinction between those two ideas (ie, people that think that the only thing that determines whether something is "good" or not is their liking it or not) have nothing to say to others and should really abstain from making judgements. It is inherently contradictory to emit an opinion that is admitedly biased and expect to be taken into account as someone whose opinion should matter on principle.

It is unfair to believe that we have not lost anything of value just because Uematsu will not refrain from making music even after the disbanding of the Mages. People that believe this forget, or fail, to mention that most of the arrangements produced by the Mages were actually not the work of Uematsu but the work of Fukui and Sekito, the founding members of the Black Mages. Whoever stupidly points out that without Uematsu there would not be a band called the Black Mages is completely missing my point.

We cannot think of the Black Mages as just another bunch of people that produced yet another arranged album within the myriads of arranged albums the series contains. The Black Mages were a group of extremely talented musicians, most of them with a background of formal training in music, that chose to remain together and base their work on a pre-existant body of music in a manner that would give a completely new twist to said body of music.
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