Jim and I discussed the topic of making Catuse a mod just a few days ago, and since JBed brought it up on the staff noticeboard just now, I thought that a forum might be a better place to discuss this. As Catuse has been a reliable contributor (notably doing large amounts of wiki gnoming). Although I put my support behind him, I would like to open it up to all users to discuss the issue. I would like to know how others feel about making Catuse a mod; if support is positive, I'll message TA to have him promoted.
I find it laughable that Cat isn't a mod yet. But, I course, no one cares what I think :P02:27, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
Well this was sure unexpected. I was certain that the latest fad sweeping the wiki was surely Amarant bubbles. Turns out, of course, that that was a right-wing conspiracy to keep me from realizing the truth, which was that the latest fad was talking behind my back about modding me :P
Serious mode now: I was certain Kaimi and/or Fenrir would be modded before me, but if it means I don't have to bug other users about moving files, I won't mind. Thanks guys
RE: Other staff nominations, one quick question: why isn't Drake an admin? With 50k edits and 5 years of experience, being on almost every day, and certainly has a use for the powers: between the vandals he reverts and the many pages (especially those JPEGs) that he puts up for deletion, he would benefit from 'em.
There are concerns about my willingness to accept Admin (I am 100% willing) and my attitude when dealing with others (up to your interpretation).
As for Catuse as mod, I fall back on the old opinions - Mods are not in short supply, we don't need more. Catuse is certainly deserving though.
Making Cat a mod tomorrow would be a good birthday present. How 'bout it? :D
I see no reason why not. He's done a good enough job on this wiki to deserve it I think, and he's here pretty much every day himself. More than what I can say about me at the current time~
I fall pretty much into the same boat as Drake (whom I still support for a promotion to admin, btw) - we are not short on mods but Catuse has done a ton of great work in his short time here.
As I said, I support Cat's modding. Moderatorship isn't really a thing where it's necessary to be careful with how many you promote, just if a person is really worthy of it, then promote them. Cat would make a good moderator, IMO.
Catuse is pretty damn hard working, especially considering how long he's been here. Definitely deserves to be a mod.
As for other staff, particularly admins, I would say that the situation probably isn't that different to how it was last time we held admin voting, by which I mean I expect the votes probably wouldn't differ that much, other than that obviously some of the candidates are no longer eligible because they are already admins this time around. I also agree with Jimcloud, that this is not the best time to judge the current admins' activity. Maybe in a month or so.
- "As for Catuse as mod, I fall back on the old opinions - Mods are not in short supply, we don't need more."
That's the wrong stance to have.
If a user has rollback, rights to move files, and rights to suppress redirects, then they can be a greater help to the wiki. By that user not having these rights then they cannot help the wiki as much. Instead they will take longer to make reverts, they will have to contact other users to move files, and they will have to VFD redirects manually.
But not allowing regular users to have these rights, we are keeping the wiki safe from reversion vandals spreeing RC and moving pages while breaking all links.
This isn't about "how many staff we have" this is about efficiency. If making Catuse a mod will improve his productivity (and give less work for other staff when they need to delete redirects and move files) then this is only beneficial.
Also, nominate self for SysOp (preferably bcrat), that is all. JBed 14:24, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, also, Scathe for bcrat--he's actually active. JBed 14:41, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
Good points on Modhood. Agreed then, Catuse for mod. Scathe for BCrat though, as far as I know all BCrats can do that Admins can't is change user rights, and as this isn't needed often, I think TA is enough. He's around if we call him, mostly.
It seems insulting that we give the highest power of the wiki (a wiki, a community of people working together to build a database) to someone who only emerges when asked and has barely helped build (edit) the wiki in years.
If people were ever given the choice of bcrat, I don't think TA would have been top of that list. JBed 17:20, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
Support Catuse for mod. He would get more out of his time here if he had more tools.
Thing is, since we only need bureaucrat powers once or twice a year, making a new bureaucrat would be mostly symbolic. While Diablo only shows up twice a month, Tactic can be reached within a couple days, so there's no practical reason to make a new bureaucrat. Just sayin'.
I am for Catuse as a mod! He/she's a great person, and really responsible and devoted.
Mask no Oni 07:26, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
Why do people keep playing the "we only need bcrat powers liek nevar" card? That's not the point. If we're going to have a bcrat they should be active. Why would a wiki want to do it any other way?
The highest-power in a business should actually care about the success of the business. I'm sure some may argue about how people are busy and can't edit, which doesn't mean they don't care, but if they don't have the time to edit should they really even be a bcrat (or our most active bcrat).
Besides, bcrats may only have few additional powers, but they are the users that should be starting this kind of topic. Having to contact TA to do things seems laborious when we can just have the bcrat already watching the wiki and help make the decisions to promote people instead of just responding to things decided by other staff. 126.96.36.199 17:54, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
So I think it's pretty clear that the wiki has decided that Catuse should be a mod. Additionally, there are some feelings that there is a need for either more admins or bureaucrats, but I think that this should be addressed later (perhaps in a month, perhaps with more formal nominations) when exams are over for everyone so that we actually know how actives our admins are.If anyone still has a point about Catuse's modship or would like to further discussion the situation of the staff on the wiki, please leave a comment since I'm going to lock and labyrinth this page tomorrow.