Since FFX the games have just been terrible. They lack creativity, the story doesnt draw you in, the characters are just combinations of other characters from previous FFs. It doesnt seem like they're even trying anymore, its pathetic. Any comment?
My comment is: Nostalgia googles. Take them off. Now. Or maybe just accept that the new games aren't for you, but hell they're pretty fine for many others, like me.
DiamondEdge 22:54, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
That's all in your opinion. I've seen others who will completely disagree with you. Now personally while I hold some of the older ones better, I myself don't believe Final Fantasy is going down at all.
Dissidia Final Fantasy, and Crisis Core two extremely populer games are keeping fans entertained. Fans are just feeling a little Nostalgic, and that's nothing really new... The rumors only got higher when Final Fantasy XIV recieved a bad score from several areas.
Final Fantasy is still looking strong. As long as Square keeps selling some of their old populer characters and games (Cloud and sephiroth...) People will stay interested in final fantasy. I'll call it right here... like Final Fantasy IX which was once considered the worse Final Fantasy in history is now beloved by almost everyone. Give FFXII and FFXIII a few years and they may start becoming populer.
In other words, just like EarthBound. Actually, Final Fantasy was one of the reasons why EarthBound is popular. When it was released outside of Japan, people didn't cared. Now, it's a cult classic.As I don't own any Sony consoles, I can not play the newer Final Fantasies (and the ones we got on Nintendo consoles are Crystal Chrononicles, which in my opinion is garbage compared to the mainstream, harder-than-usual-to-beat FFs, like Revenant Wings, and remakes of the originals (plus FFTA/2).
Not neccasarily, I for one enjoyed X and XII, really not all the old games were as good as you remember, FF's translation was awful, FFIII was just bland, and FFVIII involved time-travel and ends in a Time loop. Again FFXIII had issues, enough to warrant me giving up on it, but hopefully FFXII VS does not have the same problems. Really you can't say that the Square's quality as a company is going down because the KH series is still going strong. I will admit that Square has been having growing pains since Sakaguchi left.
I do believe that it is less, but I'm a bigger fan of the newer games than the older games. I love the stories and chracters, and the graphics are obviously an improvement. Even though Square has made some mistakes, Final Fantasy is just too big of a franchise to die from one flop. FFXIV may have started out as a complete flop, but the nostalgia will overrule that, and the fans will just wait for another console games. They're usually better anyway.
Actually, Square and Enix still operate pretty much independently. They each handle their own titles like they did before the merger.
That said, I don't think FF is "going downhill." Despite its issues, FF13 is still a great game. Just a little mishandled in key spots. FF12 has the best weapon system I've seen in any game ever, despite it being a slow game in many areas. FFX was nothing short of amazing and FFX-2 did just as well.I have to say that I agree about the rose-tinted glasses. The NES games were just not all that good. The SNES games had issues of their own that people seem to forget. FF7 has a solid battle system, but Sephy is probably the worst villain of the series minus Ultimecia and the story left enough unresolved to make several more games and a movie out of. Every game in the series has its faults. People just forget about them over time.
Well Bluestar I'm in the camp that the games are mostly good, FFXIII just wasn't my cup of tea so to speak, the old games were more effective IMO, that's not just the Nostalgia talking, I loved how simple but satisfying the original FF was, why hell if I remade it with HD graphics it would sell out immediately, the original games were all meat (no fluff here), the plot was simple and the gameplay was satisfying, I mean the games didn't get a really complex plot until IV (and even than the plot was still simple by today's standards), IMO V had the most complex systems backing it up, because with enough grinding you could have a team that could rip mega-bosses to shreds, FFXII was the same way (why hell I just farmed till I got the quickening at the beginning, I could one-shot most of the bosses from there up until things started getting massive health pools). XII & XIII share a similar problem, they throw you in to a plot with little exposition, only XII's was still understandable because the game filled in any blanks after a while in the cutscenes, but XIII just throws walls of text at you and expects you to read the novel's worth of exposition on your own time which is a bad way to approach this dilemma.