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So I was thinking that how the wiki handles music is really strange.

Every time a track appears elsewhere (such as a compilation) or elsewhere in another form (such as a remix album) there is no central place to say this unless it happens to meet a prerequisite. Say the "Besaid" track from FFX appears on Piano Collections. The person reading the Piano Collections article would have to search "Besaid" to find any other versions of the track. There's also no central place to link to either-- with a mention of "Gold M-phone" we always link to the LoVIIWeapons article.

There would be two ways to solve this, to create an article for any theme that appears in two places, or to create an article that listed all other places tracks are found.

My main problem is that for some reason the wiki does not have game music articles. Instead we use the OST articles and pretend that they are the "Music in Final Fantasy X" articles. But they're not.

  • Firstly tracks will loop in games and OST tracks often won't, thus lengths given on the OST page won't match the game.
  • Secondly not all tracks from the game are used in the soundtrack
    • for example in a music from FFVII article we would have to include four tracks that are sounds more than music but are treated like music (at least in PS).
    • There are also a number of shortened version of tracks. For example, "Those Chosen by the Planet" in VII appears in full, but also there's a version of the track with only the intro and a version which is the rest. This is so the intro can loop until a command is pressed and therefore have better timed music.
    • There is also a track in VII that never plays under any normal circumstances.
    • If in any scenario there is track used in game that isn't in the soundtrack then that won't be covered either.
  • I'm not certain but I don't think all games have soundtracks. Also some share OSTs which makes it even harder to cover.
  • Our OST pages aren't encouraged to contain full info about where music is played in game. A track called "Yuna's Theme" could say no more than "Theme of Yuna" as its description. If we were to have a music page for the game it would be expected to list all the times it plays.
  • In the case of VII we may want to include the on-disc names, such as "rukei" being "The Desert Wasteland". In the case of one's not on the OST, we'd have to refer to it in some way ("comical"/"Track 18"). Or if we can't get to data and find names (if they are used) or theoretical track numbers (which would be based on the file-order) then we can actually offer the list in the order they appear in the game, which isn't perfect for the OSTs.
  • It also means we don't have to pretend our literal translations of the tracks are their actual names as we seem to do with X-2, for example, despite their being better names used in-game.
  • Also is it just me or does music sometimes sound different? Cloister of Trials sounds like it has added something for the OST not in the original game. And maybe it's because I don't use headphones when playing X-2 but the X-2 OST sounded more well-produced.

I don't see why the OST should replace the need for a list of music from a game. Such an article may also make more sense to list other versions of the same track (since the game is the original source of the track) without needing to create an article for each one. Other references of the theme would also link back to its entry on the list of music page.

We could call them "List of Final Fantasy X Music", "Music of Final Fantasy X", or "Final Fantasy X/Music", or any of the previous with "Music" replaced with "Soundtrack" depending on what we want to be calling such pages.

But anyway, discuss. 79.69.203.227 16:58, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

A good way to point the fact that OSTs don't include all music from the games is to point the existance of Soundtrack PLUS albums. See Final Fantasy IX Original Soundtrack PLUS, which includes all ~FFIX FMV music; or Final Fantasy XIII: Original Soundtrack PLUS, which includes certain looping edits featured in the game which are somewhat distinct from the original themes. - Henryacores^ 16:57, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Also, about track names, only FFIII and V lack track names from official iTunes releases from the last 5 years. - Henryacores^ 17:01, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Revenant Wings doesn't have an OST and it even has some unique music in it that isn't from FFXII. These tracks don't have names or any way to refer to them on the wiki as far as I know.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:08, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

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